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ok me and shifty are working out my future n20 install
now.. i got 2 10 lb bottles.
i wanna mount them in the bed.. but im trying to avoid drilin holes in the bed.. yeah yeah.. i can hear all the 'why not's'... but just accept that im anal and dont want to..
so .. i need ya'lls suggestions, or pics of your bottle mounts..
let the record show.... he's anal by himself...I'm not into that sorta thing
I just installed a kit on the Silvy and also did not want to drill any holes. You can run the main feed line through the frame rail all the way to the back and up and through the boxed openings used to put hooks. My kit came with a 16ft line and it needed to be about 3-4 feet longer to do it that way. If you drill a hole or mount the bottle in the bed but closer to the cab you will not need such a long line. You can see pics of my install on PT.Quote:
Originally Posted by MidwestSS
Better get out the epoxy and double sided tape.
Honestly, I wouldn't want the bottle anything but bolted down. You're dealing with a container that has upwards of 900psi in it. You could weld studs to the bed floor and mount the brackets to those, time comes you want to get rid of them, just grind them off and a bit of paintwork no one would ever know. Plus with your no hole rule, how are you going to fun the feed line?
i got ideas on the feel line.. living in the salt region i fear drilling holes in perfectly sound sheet metal.. seen too many of those rust away to well, you get the idea
Understandable. I drilled 5 holes for the brackets and feed. Coated the bare metal with a rust converter, painted it, then put rubber grommets in each hole. I hope to hell that helps.
yeah thats my only complaint about drillin holes..
i do have a couple other ideas.. not sure if they are really feasable.
if i found a hard toneau that fit with the ISS spoiler, id just mount them to the underside of that...
You're going to buy a toneau cover just so u don't drill holes in your bed....
Mount them in the cab!
just buckle it in the passenger seat. haha
no what im saying is that if i found such a tonneau , thats how id mount em
cant mount em in the cab.. have a custom sub box under rear seat.
i have another idea in mind.. dunno if its do able..
Bottles are too heavy to mount to the cover.
Justin, love ya , but i gotta differ.. i have a bud that has his mounted under there.. if i can find a pic, ill shove it up here.Quote:
Originally Posted by pl4yboy
hope this views for you.. yeah its smaller bottles, but it would work
http://www.flickr.com/photos/25785868@N08/5553714098/
http://i586.photobucket.com/albums/s...stss/nos-1.jpg
Are you going to do something that elaborate to spread the weight out?
IF i found a hard tonneau that fit with the ISS spoiler.. yeah
just put em under the bed and get remote openers :D
Lambo.. i got remote openers.. LOL
but to put em under the bed gives me 2 more issues
1) i have a bad back and layin under the truck to change bottles.. bad idea
2) id have ot have some sort of shield or box made to protect all that from the elements
Exactly my point. Good luck finding a hard cover that fits. A soft cover wont support it. How do you plan on mounting to the cover without punching holes through the top and making it leak? Just put holes in the bed and put POR-15 on it and call it good. You've modified your truck enough at this point that it is no longer ever going to have that "collector" value.
not looking for 'collector' value.. my point about drillin holes is rust...EVERYTHING up here rusts LOL
Build a deck plate that fills the front section of the bed, so it can not move front to rear, or side to side. Then install some uprights that wedge against the plate and bed rails stops the up and down. And your done. You can paint it, NO cover needed, no drilling into the bed. Probably weigh 30lbs or so when done.
Deck plate could be covered wood, or front bed metal from a wrecked truck etc...
OR
drill 5 holes in the bed and if you ever remove mounting plate, install plastic hole plugs. You could put nut zerts in the bed, then you can remove mounting plate when not in use without getting on your back.
Mount the bottle in the spare tire area. simple thin metal shield form debris etc,
Lots of different ways to do this.
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Turbo, thats exactly what i thought about doin with the metal plate!!!!
lets just make a motorized tray that brings the bottles out from under the bed to me so i can change em LOL.
or a dump truck add on for the bed !
...i still like my idea.
i do too.. i was just hopin to see some other installs..Quote:
Originally Posted by oleshifty
I still don't see why you aren't mounting them in the bed. If you POR-15 the holes, it isn't going to rust. The end. People doing frame off restos in your area coat their whole frames and under cabs in it and have no issues. I highly double those couple of half inch holes are going to become a problem.
I drilled the holes for my rollbars, 4 years ago...still no rust. I never even spray painted the holes, just drilled and forgot about it. I live 3.2 minutes from midwest.
I suggested building a frame that fits in the notches on the cab side of the bed (where people generally stick 2x6's running the width of the truck. Then running Beams up towards the bed rail, so the box was 'sandwiched" into the bed. There would be NO holes drilled, but any tech that looked at it/tried to move it, would think it was bolted securely. We could use outdoor paint on the lumber, wrap it all in outdoor grade carpet, and call it a day.
I still don't like the bed idea, just because he needs to purchase a cover to keep bottles dry/from being stolen. And changing bottles with a cover would be a PITA.
I think making a bracket to bolt to stock seat bolts and having that hold the bottle would be the easiest/cheapest route...but then it's not 'hidden'
Which leads to option of 2 small 1.5lb bottles tucked behind rear seat or under the driver/passenger seat... for the little bit he would use it, should be suffice.
And those two 1.5 pound bottles are empty after one run. What about a below the rail toolbox?
if he's only running a 75-100 shot... he should get about 10 seconds out of 1 lb. So he should safetly get 2-3 passes, assuming he sprays from 2nd gear to finish. The track we run at fills for $5 a lb...so it's not a TERRIBLE deal.
(I have 4 10lb bottles...I obviously see the pain in constantly filling bottles, but I'm not worried about looks/drilling holes)
I had mine under the bed in front of the rear tire for over a year with no problem. Getting under to change the bottle was a pain the first time then i got a jack to hold up the bottle while I hooked it back up. Last year I moved it to behind the passenger seat and unless I show someone its back there no one ever notices. I say just mount it under the bed and put a piece of rubber to shield it from debris.
You still have to drill holes somewhere under the bed. That's gonna rust too...
think about welding some threaded studs to the bed floor that way you can mount a base plate to it, then remove if wanted? That would require less material equaling less weight than a bed width plate. Sand, weld, seal, paint= no rust. Jst how I would do it.