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Okay first of all i wanna beat a Dodge Cummins or a Duramax programmed and them things are purdy quick. But my truck has 5.3 crew cab cai, pipes, 3.73 with yukon duragrip, and tune. i called texas speed and they had a NX kit for 800 with a window switch. said it was everything i needed (150 shot). are these hard to hook up and do you guys think this will be enough? also is this a good deal and will i need anything else or is that kit gonna have all i need like they said?
any1?
I would say its a normal deal. However IMO you should wake that truck up with a higher stall TC less money for lots of fun! Circle D has a 3K for like 400 then you can save the other 400 for a Cam. With a stall and cam you will have all the time street able power not just push button it will be more reliable and you will smoke a ton of the black smoke boys. Lots of CC out there doing low 14's cammed and stalled.
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Originally Posted by kerrige
+1
YOU dont need nitrous
Agreed. It's not for the newQuote:
Originally Posted by sprayedenali
ROFL at 800$.
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Originally Posted by pl4yboy
maybe that's installed? or with 4 bottles :lol:
lol so it was a rip? and hell how do u learn about it if u dont get it?
Research.
+1 amazon has some good booksQuote:
Originally Posted by pl4yboy
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/076...RD3TMAD2F5T81B
Or go to a performance truck forum and ask questions.
Oh wait, that's what he did.
You can pick up pretty good deals on here, and on ebay. I would research it for a couple weeks while you wait for a good deal.
There are millions of places to read up on nitrous, this pops to the top of my head (probably because it was the most recent I saw). It's a good read, but not the ONLY research you should do.
http://www.s10forum.com/forum/f11/al...d-to-ask-6460/
If you have any other questions pl4yboy, myself, frenchy, lambo, a few others are all running nitrous, and can probably help (i asked lambo/pl4yboy a ton of questions before I hooked my kit up, so they probably know a bit more then me)
Spray is a great equalizer. But since it hasn't already been said... A 150 shot on stock springs wouldn't be my choice of things to do. But imma safety nut. I'd vote stall and cam KIT which would have springs and pushrods with it. Then move forward with spray. I'd call nitriousoutlet also. Prob find a little better deal
Just a quick search
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Nitro...Q5fAccessories
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/LS2-L...Q5fAccessories
I would also recommend a tune (if you don't have one) from casey or nelson performance, a set of br6ef NGK spark plugs, and a purge kit. Once you get the hang of it, bottle heaters are GREAT (but not really necessary at this stage of the game, unless you live in alaska).
I prefer "simple is better" when it comes to nitrous. I tried hooking up one of those fancy window switches when I first got my kit, and had nothing but problems. I have it wired through an 'arm" toggle switch, a 'wot microswitch', and a push button. All 3 have to be active before it works. You NEVER want to spray below 2800-3000 rpm. Spraying through shifts is up to you/your trans. I have done it a couple times, I normally try to avoid it. (I'm riding a stock trans with 170k miles). I would put a 75 shot in it first, get it dialed in, make sure you're comfortable with it, then step up to a 125-150 shot. A wideband oxygen sensor helps for tuning, learning the basics of reading spark plugs helps a lot too. I usually use it on a back country road, shut truck off right after I'm done spraying, slip it in neutral, pull over, let it cool a few minutes, pull a plug, and see what the kit is doing. They recommend changing the plugs every 3-4 bottles. I went through 8 bottles last season, on same plugs, and they still looked new. So that's up to you.
Edit: as far as springs...that's a valid point, but a lot of people are doing it. I've run 175ish through my truck for a few bottles. Pl4yboy has run 150ish shot through a few "stock internal" motors. It's a possibility. You could have a fuel solenoid go out and burn a piston/valve. It could puddle up and blow an intake off. If you're racing your truck, you have to be able to accept if something goes wrong. If you follow 'nitrous rules' it's not as likely, but still a possibility. I personally trust stock springs over aftermarket ones. Aftermarket ones wear out, get brittle, etc. For mild applications, I think stock can hold up fine. I have aftermarket springs laying around for when my cam/new heads go in, but for a stock cam on nitrous, not sure it's necessary.
got ya man thx for all the info
For a budget kit, you cant beat the Brand X kits that nitrous outlet sells. For a beginner, I suggest a dry kit and a 100 shot. If you decide you like nitrous on down the road and after you have figured a little bit out about it, you can step up to a wet kit and a 150 shot. On a dry 100, you can keep a motor tune and if you run the bottle too low, it isn't going to hurt it nearly as much as a fuel backfire will with a wet kit. Another thing you need is a wideband. A wideband will tell you instantly if there is an issue while you are spraying. If you look up and see the AFR way off, you know instantly that something isn't right. Also, I suggest a window switch and a WOT switch in combination. With a window switch, even an idiot can't spray too soon and backfire (not that it will backfire with a dry shot). Also on a 60e trans, a window switch would allow you to skip spraying through shifts. Any other questions (wiring or general questions), you can PM me. I can wire a fence post to do the robot.
lol i hear ya bud. thanks alot man. ima see what happens in the next couple of days before i choose between cam and stall or nitrous...
Cam and stall. The power is always there and doesn't cost 50$ every 5 runs you make.Quote:
Originally Posted by JTYchevy27
true but a cam and stall is a good bit more money
Not in the long run. That's for SURE. I could have done two cam/stalls with the money I've spent on nitrous.
Circle D=400 and Cam kit=600-800 at that price you will even out after just a few refills.
Labor... i think i could hook up a nitrous kit... but a cam and stall idk about lol. ill see what happens. ima check some stuff out. thanks for all the help.
Deal with nitrous outlet. I have what I consider to be a very well put together kit with lots of extras and I'm not even at the $600 mark yet. But spend your money on a nice cam and torque converter first. Like it's been said, 50 bucks to fill a bottle gets lame fast. (Some guys have hook-ups and can get it done for 30, because of where I live and the gayness that is going fast here I pay anywhere between 80-100). Mine is a "just in case I don't like your taillights" deal.
Do a nitrous install and in a few months after spending about $45-55 per bottle fill think about how much less you would have spent one time and never had to refill your power.Quote:
Originally Posted by JTYchevy27
i guess yall r right.ill save a lil more cash and get a cam and conveter
i had never used nitrous before and my first set up was a 2 stage stand alone 200 shot plate kit, i never broke anything.....results not typical :lol:
my question is i dont see how ya cant beat em? my roomie has a 05 dodge 3500 custom 5in turbo back exhaust, stage 2 cai, and a smarty programmer. now dont get me wrong full out i cant beat him but on level 7 i can bairly pull him outa level 9 and my trucks not fast compared to alot of truck on here?