Totally off topic...for you dog owners out there...

A lot of you have seen pictures of my dogs. This is Dagger, our Staffordshire Bull Terrier...please notice the width of his jaws in the second picture...

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My wife and I were walking our dogs (another Stafford and a Dachshund). Finishing up the walk, in the alley at the end of our driveway...The neighbors behind us are in their driveway with the kids and their dog (know where I'm going with this yet?). So we're hustling up the driveway trying to get in the garage before the dog sees us, because I know it's going to come running over, not meaning any harm, and it was going to turn bad because Dagger isn't going to stand for a dog running up on him. Sure enough, it runs straight up to Dagger and Dagger doesn't growl or make a sound - he just bites. About this time the neighbors come running up the driveway but there's not really anything they can do. The dogs weren't even moving - Dagger was just holding him in place. I straddle Daggers back and he's got the dogs top jaw in his mouth. The dog is trying to pull away and it's just tearing his snout up. He manages to (literally) rip his way to where Dagger only had his nose/lip in his mouth. At this point Daggers mouth is completely shut - his teeth are all touching, he's got that much of a grip on the other dog. He's completely punctured whatever he has a grip on and there's not even room to get anything in his mouth to pry it open. I try to cut off his air supply so he'll have to let go. So I'm clamping his throat and covering his nose and he's not letting up. Here comes my wife with an Oreo. She puts it by his face and as calmly as you please just lets go of the dog like "oh cool, a cookie"....never looked back at the other dog or acknowledged it was still there. Just sat down like a good boy as if he was going to get another cookie. Meanwhile the neighbors are carrying their torn up dog down the driveway leaving a trail of blood the whole way.

My point in writing this is that if any of you have dogs that you walk without a leash or let outside without a leash because they're playful and won't start a fight or whatever - LEASH YOUR DOG.

Sad to hear about the other dog, but wtf are you supposed to do when the neighbors allow him to run into your driveway? Glad to hear it ended without any severe damage. Good boy Dagger. He's a nice lookin pup, Moze

Yep...not our fault at all. He was leashed, theirs wasn't. So even if we were off our property we were in the right. Not to mention the dog came running up our driveway which is about 75 feet long. And this all happened by the garage door. So he was all the way up.

New neighbors and they didn't know better, or just completely irresponsible for their dog's well-being?

Amen! My female heeler (pure bitch and alpha dominant) has torn many a dogs up that were not on leashes... their owners fault!! Hopefully the other dog is okay and maybe it's owners will learn a lesson.

1st picture... mow your grass Moze!!!

Agreed. Nice looking poch you got there. Im at fault for never putting a leash much less a collar on Roxy, but she has her own space to roam and its not in a neighborhood.

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This is my dog, ive had a few times with the same problem. I actually had a guy walk all the way up to my house with two pits on a leash. I told him to watch Chevy, my dog, as soon as i said that he lunged for them. Thank god the guy picked both the dogs up so chevy didnt grab them.

No leashes really piss me off..One of our neighbors has a Rotty they let run loose for about 15 minutes every nihgt..The damn thing growled at me one night while i was trying to get the mail.

At this point in humanity's existence, leashes are a no-brainer. I mean seriously....

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Originally Posted by Mang213

New neighbors and they didn't know better, or just completely irresponsible for their dog's well-being?

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Just an irresponsible move on their part. I'm sure it's a friendly dog and wasn't even thinking of fighting. But if a dog runs up on a Stafford or AmStaff or APBT, they're in trouble.

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Originally Posted by PurpleMinivan

Amen! My female heeler (pure bitch and alpha dominant) has torn many a dogs up that were not on leashes... their owners fault!! Hopefully the other dog is okay and maybe it's owners will learn a lesson.

1st picture... mow your grass Moze!!!

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Yeah I'll check with them tomorrow and see how he's doing.

And yeah I know...freakin weeds...

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Agreed. Nice looking poch you got there. Im at fault for never putting a leash much less a collar on Roxy, but she has her own space to roam and its not in a neighborhood.

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Yeah your situation is a lot different - you have wide open land without neighbors dogs running around.

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No leashes really piss me off..One of our neighbors has a Rotty they let run loose for about 15 minutes every nihgt..The damn thing growled at me one night while i was trying to get the mail.

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I'd be calling the police. That's how children wind up mauled.

This is my dog, lacie, picture is probably the ONLY time she's had a leash/collar on her

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She goes 'to play' with all the neighbors dogs (they will seriously call up and see if she can go over to play), if I'm outside, she's with me. She sits in the truck, or will lay under it in the garage. Some guy walked up driveway other day when I was messing with the blazer and was like SIR, PLEASE RESTRAIN YOUR DOG! she was laying at my feet, and I'm like 'ya you're fine' he walked up to me to hand me a flyer and she started licking his feet, never even got up. She plays catch with a chunk of rope and likes to chase rabbits, and if I yell SIT! while she's running, she will literally drop mid stride and slide to a stop. Best dog I've ever had. Got her for $25 bucks from pound a week before I finished college, she was scheduled to be put to sleep THAT DAY because she had been there so long.

My old dog, Aries, was a completely different story. That dog used to have a engine lift chain as a leash, and I would put it on the clevis hook of my hitch, swear she moved my truck like 8 inches one day trying to get to a dog some lady was walking down the sidewalk.

wow lucky i havent had any issues with my APBT yet as most people around here would have a fit if something happend like that even if they were at fault like in your case. glad things got under control before it got worse. here is my 8month apbt

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My beagles never ever been on a leash or tied, but again, out in the country. Toughest dog alive too, so I'm not worried :lol: right.

It was pretty scarey, to say the least. I know we were in the right on this one, but I feel bad for their dog. And any trip to the ER Vet is always scarey, so I feel bad for our neighbors. I like to think Dagger was protecting his mommy, tho, too. I guess we won't be going on walks unless I have Oreos in my pocket!

Cool story, but can your dog do this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzlIIL_rmLE

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Cool story, but can your dog do this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzlIIL_rmLE

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Ahahahahahahhahahaha! I love the refrence to Ceasar Milan!

Ive got a Staffordshire female and she is pure dominant. Needless to say those people were in the wrong and all your boy was doing was protecting you and your family moze.

Same thing happened to me. Some how and Australian shepherd got in my back yard and was getting after my 8 pound toy rat terrier. I heard the yelping and ran out side, my Staffy Kiylee(Her Name) came from no where and took that other dog down, and well you know what happened from there. Needless to say she was just protecting her little sister in her own territory. Shes the best dog I have ever had, and the sweetest, as long as nothing threatens us or her everyone will be fine. Its a good sense of security to have a dog like that, they are part of the family and I don't have to worry when I am out of town and steph is home alone.

You are correct. They are the best dogs in my opinion. I wouldnt trade mine for the world.

Poor dog. I hope the nieghbor's don't hate you now and poison your dog. My brother had that happen to his Rott and it never was even out of his fence. Then 3 weeks later his 9 month old Staffordshire got out and the police shot it. A kid in the nieghborhood let him out and was playing with him then left him out and an old lady called the police. She said there was a crazy pitbull on the loose chasing kids. Bad deal. Hope nothing happens in retaliation.

Moze you dog looks awesome. How are Staffy's with other dogs if they are raised with them? Say a Chihuahua and boxer? We are huge dog lovers me and my wife. I feel for the other folks but yeah they should have been taking proper care for their dog. Yeah we have a dachshund pug mix that would chew someones leg off if they get Close to Steph. And he was born blind so he doesn't know he's no the biggest and makes him more protective.

mine dogs would KILL you if you ever tried to get in our house, with there tongs :LOL: they dont like alot of other dogs though and they are brother and sister so they work really well together
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Wow . I am sorry Moze. Your wife was super smart for getting the Oreo. I never take my dogs out of the yard without a lease and if I did I would expect something to happen. I have a pug and she is a very very good dog. She does like to run up to other animals in excitement and want to play. I know this can be detrimental to her health. I sure hope the neighbors don't go for revenge. As diplomatic as you are I think you will be ok.

GORGEOUS dogs luke

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Poor dog. I hope the nieghbor's don't hate you now and poison your dog. Hope nothing happens in retaliation.

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Everything is good. I went and talked to them yesterday and the whole event was worse than the injuries. The other dog has a huge hole in his lip where Dagger was holding him, but that's essentially the worse of the damage amazingly enough. They've been cool about the whole thing admitting it's their fault and said the dog is fine.

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Moze you dog looks awesome. How are Staffy's with other dogs if they are raised with them? Say a Chihuahua and boxer? We are huge dog lovers me and my wife. I feel for the other folks but yeah they should have been taking proper care for their dog. Yeah we have a dachshund pug mix that would chew someones leg off if they get Close to Steph. And he was born blind so he doesn't know he's no the biggest and makes him more protective.

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They're great if they're raised with them. The primary thing is they will almost definitely try to be the dominant dog. So if you bring a young male bull breed in with a established male of any other breed, there may be problems eventually.

I'm so worn out from reading the pure retarded comments from a couple of other boards that that's all I'm going to say. lol

Post up the links. I want to read. I need some rotard stuff to read today

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Wow . I am sorry Moze. Your wife was super smart for getting the Oreo. I never take my dogs out of the yard without a lease and if I did I would expect something to happen. I have a pug and she is a very very good dog. She does like to run up to other animals in excitement and want to play. I know this can be detrimental to her health. I sure hope the neighbors don't go for revenge. As diplomatic as you are I think you will be ok.

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Funny thing is I told her to get a "bar" so I could pry his mouth open. She thought I said "ball" (because he's fanatical about his ball) but instead grabbed an Oreo...wonder of wonders it worked lol. And yeah - the neighbors are fine and accept all responsibility.

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Funny thing is I told her to get a "bar" so I could pry his mouth open. She thought I said "ball" (because he's fanatical about his ball) but instead grabbed an Oreo...wonder of wonders it worked lol. And yeah - the neighbors are fine and accept all responsibility.

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I know some K9 Police handlers that have had to strangle dogs unconscious to get them off other police officers. Usually it takes several minutes. Any Oreo in seconds. That is too kool. Glad the neighbors dog is ok. You might later on totally neutral ground slowly introduce the neighbors dog to yours. That way next time he wont do that. Maybe anyway. Some times that works. Sometimes the Alpha dog never lets another beta dog on his turf.

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They're great if they're raised with them. The primary thing is they will almost definitely try to be the dominant dog. So if you bring a young male bull breed in with a established male of any other breed, there may be problems eventually.

I'm so worn out from reading the pure retarded comments from a couple of other boards that that's all I'm going to say. lol

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when i got my APBT ive been very good with introducing her with as many people and dogs/animals as i can so hopefully she will not have any animal agression as she gets older. right now her two best dog friends are a 8lb poodle and my best friends 100lb american bull boxer mix. she will also lick you to deth like most amstfs and apbts will do haha