so ive seen some guys have their axle tubes welded to the center section. is it as simple as just welding them in or is there some fancy alignment pressing in thing that has to be done?
thanks for any input
Printable View
so ive seen some guys have their axle tubes welded to the center section. is it as simple as just welding them in or is there some fancy alignment pressing in thing that has to be done?
thanks for any input
Make sure nothings bent and burn 'em in, something I always do when I weld cast is heat it cherry red then weld it and just let it cool naturally don't douse it.
Dont worry about the tubes warping cause they already are... Every single 10bolt on the NBS trucks are. When I weld them usually I consentrate the heat on the center section. X2 on letting it cool slowly..
are the housing weldable cast steel? i thought they might be cast iron.
What type of welding process and filler metal?
im having someone do it for me. he literally has the prettiest welds ive ever seen so im sure he would use whatever is right, but i personally dont know what he would use
I always thought you have to weld with a high nickle content, and use a stick welder.
You can make a pretty weld with an arc welder but you have to be good.
just mig them im assuming?
the guy called me and wasnt 100% sure on how exactly to do it, so whats the real play by play of how you guys do this?
I've done it with arc (can't remember which rod) and mig, but since every one I've done had had a cast iron pumpkin, I heat it up cherry red, do my weld in one solid bead, then beat the bejesus out of the weld until its cooled enough that its lost it's color then just let it sit. That's how I was taught how to weld cast and it's worked every time, likely other ways to do it to
Mig...and if your guy is such a good welder then he should have to ask how to weld something...
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/k...k/DSC05785.jpg
Droppin' dimes on that bish!
hes just never done this before, just curious as to how others have done it
It's as basic as it gets, not like you're asking him to weld like 22 guage aluminium or something
he just asked me a simple question of how exactly others had done it so i passed it on to you guys. if he was as incompetent as you guys seem to think he is, trust me, he wouldnt be working on my truck! :lol:
youll all see plenty of his work once i post some pics of my truck and then you can see what im talking about :)
so when you get the center section red hot, its fine to have all the guts in there? id assume at least drain out the fluid, but getting it so hot wont hurt the seals or anything like that? or is getting it so hot a no no with the bearings and what not in there?
I'd say take the stuff out.
DO NOT take everything out and weld it up...leave it together. If everything is out then it WILL WARP and then you got problems. Tell him to use a Mig and concentrate the head on the center section when welding. Just go slow. Ya'll are making this way harder than it needs to be. Trust me I have only welded up about 50 of these this way. Change fluid after everything is cooled..
so dont get it hot with a torch? just use the welder for all the heat and what not?
or still use the torch?
cool, thanks Jon. :thumb:
Heating it up first is optional, it's just always the way I've done cast, and it's always worked so it's what I do.
just a little sample of his work... i know its TIGd aluminum and not MIGd iron, but still...
http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/a...rcella-who.jpg
Thats purty.
the rear end is finished...
we've been waiting on 4 ''Y'' fittings for about 3 weeks now, but we've changed up some stuff so i dont need them anymore and so it should be done fairly soon now.
I just did my buddys, and nickel rod is the only thing that has held up over time, we tried mig, tig and arc an they still seem to start leaking again after awhile, an the nickel rod is working fine now.
and whats the purpose of welding the axle tubes?
so you don't spin the center section