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ok well im going to upgrade my 4L60E on my 06 silverado 4.8 with the STS turbo kit, im looking for more info and what exactly i need and wich parts and brands to get . im not really to good at transmissions so please inlighten me please with knowledge:hyper2:
Save your money and do an 80e swap....trust me. I've been through 3 65e's and if I had it to do all over again, I would save the hassle and go with the 80.
well im kind of on a budget, what would it cost to do the 80E conversion?
theres is a local guy who ive heard is very good with the 4l60e trannys ,heres is what he priced me and the parts he said, this is his email he sent to me,
Our competition level 1 uses the upgraded clutches, raybestos z pak kit replaces the weak 6 clutch third and fourth stock clutch pack, the beast sun shell, corvette servo , wider than stock kevlar band and I do my own shift kit and block pistons that cushion the stock shifts. The comp level 1 is priced at $800 with a 6 month warranty on a carry out, but with full job with removal and installation you get a 1 year warranty. The full job with a 2500 stall converter , fluids and everything would be $1450
is that any good ?the price seems fair
Ur lifted 2wd right? 80e will be alot cheaper than a 4wd
As far as price that doesn't sound bad, but if you are making big power you may need more than a level 1.Quote:
Originally Posted by liftedboost
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Originally Posted by WARLOCK
yes my truck is 2wd,what would be the difference in the 80e install? crossmember and what else,
For 2wd you need the crossmember modified, harness, retune, trans, flywheel and spacer, yoke and u joint possibly drive shaft...idk on a Crew Cab
For 4wd you would also need many other expensive parts
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Originally Posted by liftedboost
It seems like a good price but here's the thing, it comes with a warranty which is good but if something breaks, you have down time while they pull it out, fix it and re-install. You may not be out any money, but if you are like me, any time not driving my truck sucks!
You'll hear a lot of people tell you that these transmissions don't do well on heavy trucks with a lot of power, even if they are "built". Say you spend $1450 now and in a year you turn up the boost (you know you will :devil:), and boom there it goes. Then you ahve to pay to have it rebuilt or buy a new one. Either way, you are having to spend money again on something that could be taken care of the first time around.
The 80e is much stronger stock than most 60/65's are fully built. I know it seems like a pita to do the swap but I think you would be much better off knowing that you don't have to worry about it if you crank up the boost.
Read this thread if you haven't already. Good luck!http://www.ls1truck.com/forums/front...rans-swap.html
I like the 4l60... you can build them pretty reasonble.. just dont invest in all the billet stuff... I have a 600+Hp procharger truck with a 4l60 its TONS of fun to drive on the street.. Depends on the driver.... and the tune.... TRANSMISSION tune... not the engine...
How much does the truck weigh? Not being a smart ass, just wondering.Quote:
Originally Posted by casey23
Its an ex cab LT 2wd... 3600 Yank BUilt 4l60, Ls6,Blower cam, pro flow intake with truc trac and 4.10 gear NOTHING is taken off 5200??? It has leather,headed seats and the worxQuote:
Originally Posted by Sleaper
Nice! Sounds like there is a 60e that has survived. I'll agree that there are other factors that lead to the demise of a trans.... Would you take a built 60e over an 80e if cost wasn't a factor? Just curious...Quote:
Originally Posted by casey23
IDK if i can awnser that question... I HAD everything to build a bullet proof 4l60 even with a transbrake... but when i bought my motor it came with a 4l80 trans swap for near free.... so i went that route... so when it was my choice i went to an 80e .. not that i am really happy with it... I built this truck for a Great buddy of mine with a 4l60. My goal with his truck has been 11s... he doesnt seem to think thats possible after looking threw the boards. After building it and adjusting the tune on the street the very first pass was 13.60... by the end of the day truck went 13.1X on the motor.... nothing taken off and still easy tune ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sleaper
Proof right there that the 80 is better!! lol j/kQuote:
Originally Posted by casey23
I see alot of hotrod trucks with good power..... all between 12.80-13.20 with 4l80 swaps.. so i built something with same power but with a 4l60 and it runs 11s?? Your right.. what a simple choice ! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sleaper
I suggest you go for the 4L80E route...
Guessing you make what....500 TQ to the flywheel? and moving ur weigth with those big tires.......
You Can build billet the 60e all you want, but then, a mid build 80e probably will cost u around the same. ur not drag racing with those tires, so the 60 lbs plus of the 80e will come no offence to ur truck.
Peace of mind for ur truck will be a 80e....or then a mid build 60e totally tunned to nanny shift, pull time for each gear change, and manage torque better than GM technicians to make it live...a while !
I have a good friend of mine that build billet parts at Astoria, NY.
He can give u some ins and outs and a good light for ur application. Not an amateur wanting to be tuner or mechanic, just a good tech who builds and redesign a few things.
Chris Kokkonis at 6312181048....give him a call before you make any decision based on us wise guys !
Don't even mess with the 65e. Go 80e, no doubt. You are lifted with larger tires. That alone on a stock motor will do harm. Spend a few more hundred bucks now and save thousands later. Trust!
I would personally take a STOCK 80E over a fully built 60E for our trucks.
X2, I'm on my fourth 60/65E. When this one goes, I might get it fixed one more time, but after that I'm going to an 80E.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sleaper
I just rebuilt mine by myself in my high school auto tech class with not much help from the teacher. All you need is a good pair of snap ring pliers and a spring compressor and the ATSG books. No other specialty tools needed really. Contact Dana at Pro Built Automatics (700R4 & 4L60E Automatic transmissions specialists - ProBuilt) and he'll give you what you need. I did mine for $920, TC and $200 dollars worth of fluid included and I love it! He said its good up to 650HP and its held up for 8,000 miles so far and I drive the PISS outta mine. Every stop light is a drag launch :D All the same stuff thats in my tranny is in his mid 9 second f-body with 3000 passes on it so far.