i know this probably will get shot down quick, but i'm just brainstorming here...
would running an intercooler on a N/A setup be beneficial in any way or would it probably just be a bigger restriction in the airflow?
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i know this probably will get shot down quick, but i'm just brainstorming here...
would running an intercooler on a N/A setup be beneficial in any way or would it probably just be a bigger restriction in the airflow?
Good question..I'd like to know that myself.
my guess is you wont see enough iat drop to even get a gain from it....if it worked im sure someone would be selling one.
Maybe theres some gains though....who knows...build u one and see!
IVe heard of people doing meth injection on Na but thats just to give more octane so idk if an intercooler would work. My guess is it wont be any better than a cold air intake.
it would probably come down to if it restricts the airflow or not. im sure it would reduce temps but im gonna say its not cost effective at all. gary
Sounds like a huge intake restriction to me,FWIW I have ran water/meth on a NA setup and it worked great in the summer with ambient temps in the 100s it would spray and intake temps would drop to the low 50s.
but that takes monies...Quote:
Originally Posted by Black'Rado
now if you feel like sponsoring such an endeavor, i'd be happy to let you know how it works
50* is quite significant, but that's an injection system & not just an air-to-airQuote:
Originally Posted by jake_03
intercooler with boost isnt a restriction cause the air in the air tract is pressurized and is forced thru.
a NA setup has to suck thru the intercooler. So it would be along the lines of trying to breath thru a snorkle on a daily basis
That's exactly the same analogy I was going to use!Quote:
Originally Posted by Quik
I have been contomplating setting up a meth kit on my truck especially for the 110-120 degree summers that we have here.
N2O cools your intake charge down!
It all depends on if you are going to run a cooled down liquid to air intercooler or if you are going to run air to air.
Air to air won't help as the air cooling the intercooler is the same temp as the air being drawn in from outside the vehicle. Ambient. However, if you are currently drawing air from the engine bay, that's a different story. I recommend just finding a way to install a cold air kit.
Now, if the intercooler is an ice box water to air intercooler or a nitrous halo cooled system, you'll see reduced iat temps and may get a gain. However, I think it would be rather a small gain.
Methanol injection does work for NA cars.
To OP, good question. You are certainly on the right track.
-However, concerning the NA intercooler, IMHO, no way! Huge restriction! The air can only get to ambient.
So, build or buy a good cold air/snorkle type intake. If you want to go the extra mile, insulate the tubing from the filter to the throttle body.
Eric
thanks for bringing some interesting discussion to the table. i didn't really figure it would have any positive effect - otherwise somebody with the parts & time would've done it already. i was just curious...
how about runnin your intake piping down to ur front bumper and say like throw the foglight hole? would that help any? pulling air from infront of the truck instead of the engine bay.
Dale did this.....Although what hasnt dale done with a cold air intake. Idk if he saw any gains. Ask Tyler
i'm plannin on making a scoop based on this idea - sorta like the Volant kit has.Quote:
Originally Posted by dru34
i can't remember who on here did it, but they said it didn't do much around town, but at highway speeds, it helped a little
I have the Volant intake pipe on my C3. My IATs at cruise are very low, but the outside temps have been low lately. Once it warms up, I can log and get some good numbers.
69chvelle and I rigged up a "CAI" on his truck and it worked well.
stock box, with a hole cut in the bottom. From the box hole a plastic tube runs to the tow hook hole. Batabing bataboom, plenty of fresh air available to the filter.
Ample ambient temp fresh air to the filter is good.
I have a vararam on my vette. Thats as "ram air" as it gets.
Eric