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right now i have 2 p1 rf 12" 4ohm dvc's in a ported single cab truck box. it sounds great during rock and country but doesn't have the right note to hit with any rap. im not cutting the cab. would one p3s412 in a ported box sound better? i want it to sound like a suv/car but understand its not eay. btw its a p325.1 amp
what size is the p3s412? 10"?
12
I take it that its a Shallow mount dual 4 ohm?
I have one for sale in the for sale section
yep.
The shallow Rockfords are the best sounding shallows I have heard aside from the diamond shallows. If ported right it will sound way better than what you currently have. You aren't getting the range you want now because you are lacking airspace. There is barely airspace for two 10's. You wouldn't be in this position right now had you gone with 10's from the start. The only way to get your truck to sound like a SUV/hatchback is to put a bandpass box through the bed, which you said you don't want. The shallow 12 still might not be what you are looking for but you should have adequate airspace for one ported. You could probably even go with one of your p1's ported and sound way better than the two. I did 1 ported p1 10 on a p325.1 in a regular cab 05 once and it did good for what it was. Moral of the story is: to get the sound you want, you have to make sacrifices. You would never be disappointed with a bedcut, I promise. Just make sure the installer knows what they are doing if you ever decide to gothat route. I've seen some HACKED UP bedcuts.
im not doing a bedcut. if i did id do it myself with one friend and it would be done right. not this truck. I have 2 10"cvr's i had in before but didn't like the sound.
I've never been a fan of kicker either. You might look into diamond audio. The 2 d310's in my black truck hit almost as loud and hard as my white truck. The white truck had a bandpass bedcut with 2 p2 12s. Or, I did a JL W1 13 in a ported box for a 05 reg cab once. That thing slams!Quote:
Originally Posted by kyhunter89
name a sub under $250 that would be best in a reg cab truck. either 1 10" or 1 12".
id like to keep using the same amp.
Diamond d3
Treo SSi... sorry, but we BOTH know that'll blow a d3 away.
I was just thinking of the price he wanted to spend.Quote:
Originally Posted by pl4yboy
diamond audio's website is well,,, different. I'll have to see if a local shop carries them. i hate all the local shops.
There is a reason that not just anyone can carry their product...........
The SSi model should be around his price range unless prices have been raised.Quote:
Originally Posted by lo-lyf
i mean i didn't see nothing about air space mounting depth, or watts. It'd be nice to know something about them.
You have to look around a little bit. They have the manuals in PDF. I can't remember where they are though.Quote:
Originally Posted by kyhunter89
You have to look around a little bit. They have the manuals in PDF. I can't remember where they are though. I know they fit in my prefab df box and require 3/4 cube sealed. Look into the ones Justin was mentioning, he seems to know of more brands than I do. I usually find what I like and stop there.Quote:
Originally Posted by kyhunter89
* when you got to diamondudio.com click on the support menu at top of the page, you can view the manuals there.
I kinda just threw that sub out there... it's been a year or so since I've been active with car audio forums. Looks like they're going to want a little more power than you have (750 RMS for a 10 or 12).Quote:
Originally Posted by lo-lyf
Honestly, a tried and proven sub for sealed or small ported enclosures is the Resonant Engineering RE sub (they have a mounting depth of under 6" for a 12), or if you want to be a guinea pig, RE has a new shallow mount called the SL. They call for 350 watts RMS and have a mounting depth of 3.5".
I haven't ever seen or heard anyone be dissatisfied with RE. I know they were bought out a while back by US Amps (also a good quality company) but still retain their designs. They can be expensive now that they aren't privately owned anymore.
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Looks like they are right around your price range on that site, but that is the only site I looked into. You may find it cheaper. Good luck and let me know if I can help you with anything.
A guy I know that started with 3 underpowered d3 12's made the switch to RE, he said he was impressed by them. We could feel him coming from a block away with both setups, I didn't hear the truck enough to hear the difference inside though.
Re audio fan here. Got a 10 inch Sr going into the mini. And just traded one to jonathan (C-Way)
The SR's have come out since I stepped away from car audio. I know my two SX 12s on the KX2500.1 hit about like my DD does... except without the SQ.
i think my problem is more in my box/truck than subs and amp.
Most likely.Quote:
Originally Posted by kyhunter89
it sounds good. just doesn't sound car a car/suv
I hate to say it, butthe only way you are going to get hatchback/suv sound is by cutting the bed. No one ever understands that when it comes to sound in trucks that some things need to be sacrificed. It sucked losing 2' of my bed but I had a truck that was just as loud as any Tahoe with the same artillery.
oh i understand it, i just dont like it. im try to keep weight low too btw.
RE has severly changed since Scott owned it...........I'll leave it at that. Some, and I mean 'some' of the woofers are still good and hand built on the west coast, some are not. Want the good RE, get an Fi.Quote:
Originally Posted by pl4yboy
IMHO, USAmps has, ah, changed over the years.
You know I've been out of the loop for a while. But true, if you want RE, skip it and go Fi. They had just sold out RE when I was getting out of the hobby.Quote:
Originally Posted by blueflamed03
Yep, my Scott Atwell built both from ground up, USAmps forgot to have Scott sign a non-competitive contract, so he opened Fi. :) I'll see him and Dave from RE next week in vegas....
Dave was always a cool guy to me on the forums.Quote:
Originally Posted by blueflamed03
yea David is a cool cat for sure...just got a VM from Tommy 'King of Bass' Mckinney, now THAT is a crazy fool :D