Bailout .........

With GM and Chrysler all but in bankruptcy .........

We gave both Billions under the assumption that if they went into bankruptcy
they would have to "close dealers and factories" and the ripple effect would
be "incalculably devastating" to the economy

Now after giving each tens of billions, Obama has all but given Chrysler to
the Union (55%) and made investors take .10 cents on the dollar

and GM is closing half it's dealers and several plants ..........


WTF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :argg:

I want my 80 billion back


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well that means im getting a 2008 Avy pretty soon!!! :naughty: :LOL:

We better hurry up and get ash's tbss, too bad we can't get crap for her grand cherokee. I tried to warn her about it, i told her to get a Tahoe or Yukon because they keep their value so much better. I watched the Grand Cherokee go from a 13k value from last year to just barely over 8k this year. Talk about some B/S. A 2003 Grand Cherokee with under 50k should go for more than that I would think.

fyi...jeeps don't hold their value

Yep it's pretty messed up, the same thing would have happened without us giving them ton's of money or not!

I agree...closing alot of dealerships around, but they say that's the 'plan' to be viable in the years to come....hard for me to see it....

bottom line obama is a idiot

all of the White House is actually...it was in deep issues, well before Obama.

GM , Government Motors , or GM Government Managed .
Hussein Obama has sold America to the Chinese , all the Stimulus came from China, China holds more paper loans for the US than Great Brittan , so CHINA OWNS US !
If China cashed in it papers we would have to sell Mont Rushmore for paving stone for Chinese walk ways in China .

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so CHINA OWNS US !
If China cashed in it papers we would have to sell Mont Rushmore for paving stone for Chinese walk ways in China .

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I hate to break this to yall but it has already happened.


Obama granted China Eminent Domain rights in the US as collateral

HILLARY GRANTS EMINENT DOMAIN AS COLLATERAL TO CHINA FOR U.S. DEBTS! - Patriotic Resistance


There is not ONE single news story or coverage of this ANYWHERE !!!!!

That site is seems BS IMO. Hillary doesnt have the power to do this. Actually, Japan owns more US debt than China and about 50% of the US debt is held by Americans in the form of bonds. I have done some research on this already. Quit worrying about China. F^$@ Congress, Obama is just as much a tool as Bush was. The American people are to blame for all this nonsense. And it all goes back to how the youth of yesterday has prioritized their needs. No one cares about earning a living, or about being a good citizen. No one cares to enforce consequences on actions. All anyone cares about anymore is owning the biggest house on the block or having the biggest rims.

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I hate to break this to yall but it has already happened.


Obama granted China Eminent Domain rights in the US as collateral

HILLARY GRANTS EMINENT DOMAIN AS COLLATERAL TO CHINA FOR U.S. DEBTS! - Patriotic Resistance


There is not ONE single news story or coverage of this ANYWHERE !!!!!

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snopes.com: Feds Grant China Eminent Domain

Straight from the U.S. Treasury Department :http://www.treas.gov/tic/mfh.txt
Japan use to but now China then Japan , either way Socialist countries !
Satrun dealerships slated to sell Indian (not American Indian , India) and Chinese cars .

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The American people are to blame for all this nonsense. And it all goes back to how the youth of yesterday has prioritized their needs. No one cares about earning a living, or about being a good citizen. No one cares to enforce consequences on actions. All anyone cares about anymore is owning the biggest house on the block or having the biggest rims.

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Wow , so wrong there bud , we the American people are the victims not the perpetrators , the rich and wasteful are the ones to blame .
I agree the American people need to stand up and stop this B.S. fleecing of America , stop driving as much , stop buying as much , we can hurt the rich and wasteful by just not spending , if we don't spend they can't make , they loose money , and eventually prices will lower , they have to , no other choice but to lower prices !
WE are in control , the American Consumer ! :twocents:

Sorry for the rant !

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Wow , so wrong there bud , we the American people are the victims not the perpetrators , the rich and wasteful are the ones to blame .
I agree the American people need to stand up and stop this B.S. fleecing of America , stop driving as much , stop buying as much , we can hurt the rich and wasteful by just not spending , if we don't spend they can't make , they loose money , and eventually prices will lower , they have to , no other choice but to lower prices !
WE are in control , the American Consumer ! :twocents:

Sorry for the rant !

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Dumbest thing I have ever heard.

The rich are what make this country great.

Stopping spending hurts you more than it hurts the rich, cause
it does away with your job. The rich dont care, they're already rich.

The politicians who have brain washed you into believing the drivel that
just came out of your mouth are the ones to blame squandering this country's
future.

Consumerism is what makes America great. We just need to start living with in our means
Starting with the Federal government, who makes everyone else look like Scrooge, with its useless wasteful spending.

glad I'm up here

Amazing what Obama can do in less than a year. I give it three more posts before admin shuts this down.

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Dumbest thing I have ever heard.

The rich are what make this country great.

Stopping spending hurts you more than it hurts the rich, cause
it does away with your job. The rich dont care, they're already rich.

The politicians who have brain washed you into believing the drivel that
just came out of your mouth are the ones to blame squandering this country's
future.

Consumerism is what makes America great. We just need to start living with in our means
Starting with the Federal government, who makes everyone else look like Scrooge, with its useless wasteful spending.

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fyi...jeeps don't hold their value

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Try to buy an old wrangler and say that. I bought my 83 CJ7 with 200k+ and in DECENT condition for 5500. Stock inline 6, stock height, stock EVERYTHING.

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Try to buy an old wrangler and say that. I bought my 83 CJ7 with 200k+ and in DECENT condition for 5500. Stock inline 6, stock height, stock EVERYTHING.

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Older jeeps seem to hold their value better than the Grand Cherokees and such. That's because the older ones were built to withstand nuclear war and the new ones can't handle a stiff breeze!

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Originally Posted by r.barn

Dumbest thing I have ever heard.

The rich are what make this country great.

Stopping spending hurts you more than it hurts the rich, cause
it does away with your job. The rich dont care, they're already rich.

The politicians who have brain washed you into believing the drivel that
just came out of your mouth are the ones to blame squandering this country's
future.

Consumerism is what makes America great. We just need to start living with in our means
Starting with the Federal government, who makes everyone else look like Scrooge, with its useless wasteful spending.

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How Hussein got elected !
Seriously if have thousands of dollars in my bank account and I don't spend it , it hurts me right , Oh My God , guess I had better go blow it all !
Circus msuic , with clowns ====
Being one of the rich is what makes this country great , if you are not one of them it bites .

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I am with Foggy.

This thread should be shut down, it is clearly political. A fight will soon ensue due to opinions of people that have worked really hard to earn what they have and people that haven't figured out what it takes to make it rich.

GM Canada just notified 250 out of the 700 dealerships in Canada today that they're gone at the end of this current contract. We lost two in Ottawa, both were Pontiac, Buick, GMC dealers.

This thread will not survive and needs to be locked. All this is going to do is cause problems.