Any lawyers in the house? I need legal advice pertaining to a situation at work.
Just a few questions. PM me please.
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Any lawyers in the house? I need legal advice pertaining to a situation at work.
Just a few questions. PM me please.
I think a pistol should do the trick.. whatever it may be. Violence solves everything
I wish it were that simple.
Having same problem I had when I first started. Older guys mad at the world, nothing better to do but try to get me in trouble. Only this time its serious. Well, its retarded. But its been blown way out of proportion.
A cat that was adopted by the station showed up one day without whiskers. Automatically I was accused. And the guy went around telling everyone that I did it, that I also broke various rules, and even strait faced lied to the assistant chief.
Now as much as I hate cats, If I wanted to harm the little creep, It would have just disappeared. Without a trace. But the problem is he has a few good ole boy buddies that are backing him. Don't know what I did to piss him off, but he is winning right now. I got written up. He went and dug, and dug, and dug some more, until he found out one time I forgot my helmet. then boom. He squealed. They had a long list of fabricated accusations, and one actual mistake I made. I took responsibility for it.
The others were like, I slept all day. I didn't know how to pump the truck ect...
Its at the point were I would rather quit, and find another job, than deal with this crap any longer. I'm not quitting unless its a last resort. And I have another job lined up. And they cant fire me, on an accusation alone. So its a waiting game until My next mistake, and If its around him, I'm done.
Maybe he is mad because I didn't like McCain. :LOL:
Seriously though. I'm at my wits end with this nonsense.
I need to know my rights, options, risks, and what to do and not to do.
Thanks
jeff i hear ya man. i did some **** recently and i lost my employment. once the older guys turn against you, your basically ****ed. they will dig till your gone from the company. and none will take a lie detector test either. start looking for another job bud
Oh man! Thats is just bs. Some people though, they just don't even need reasons to do that to a person.. they just shovel sh*t all day, and usually on some of the best people. From what I've seen though its usually from these type of people that expect this :bow: and people bow for them all the time.
Fear, jealousy, or just a straight a** hat. He just doesn't like you, and well since he's bee around he'll ride you till you quit, or get fired..
Feel for you man.
I don't think there would be too much in the way of legal steps.. unless you can get him for slander or something, but I'm sure that would just piss the man off.. but then might make him back off too
The legal advice I need, I cant talk about publicly. Just hoping maybe at least 1 person on here was a lawyer.
sorry bud :(
try a CHANGE....lol... it might help.
thats what NOBAMA says:ugh2:Quote:
Originally Posted by TurboMic
1st Never talk politics at work. 2nd well I am with Quik Find another job. No way around it. Chances are you don't have there respect and are never going to get it. Once some ones personal views are expressed others with very different views will never look at you the same. Chances are an attorney is just going to take your money and tell you to find another job.
old guys suck!Yeah....im an old guy but i will never be like those dicks i was on the FD with when i was younger.Jeff....they will never stop,i put up with there BS for 2 years and no matter what i did the dumbass wouldnt let up!If your better at your job and they know it, your threatning his tiny mind and his tiny penis....its just that way!
My brother-in-law is a Lawyer for the NCAA in Indianapolis. Im sure he could help you out. He studied Law in Texas so he knows texas laws. I could give him a call.
Seriously. If old dude is once of the ima a bad @$$ type to his buddies and runs everyone down to make him feel important type. Which sounds like it. PUNK him down. Most people like that fear something envolving backing up their so called man-hood. My opinion if someone was going to ride me till i quit it would be bad for my bills when I pay for the EMT treatment he will get... wait you know that stuff. Stomp him down and fix him right up. Then you will get your point across and show everyone what a great job you do at deconstruction and giving medical attention. All you got legally I can think of off hand is slander. Less you can get him for something like liable and tryin to get you fired... Then it would be a felony... not a civil suit. Which could have him and his buddies fired instead of you if they were all in it against you. Just find a way to trick the tard into writing his claims.
Lets play devils advocate. What makes you so sure you are better than the older guys.
Sounds like my 7 year old who swears she knows everything when in reality she does not.
Just trying to get some thought jump started in your head that might can help change the situation. People can not be changed however. Only one person can be changed.
Sign him up on some animal porn sites. :laugh:
LMAO! Greg....
and put a bumper on his truck that says I love gay porn.Quote:
Originally Posted by RedHeartbeat
that sh!t sucks jeff, if you do get another job, i would damn sure give that b**ch a piece of my mind before i left
I probably would not do any good cause he'd get the satisfaction of knowing he ran Jeff off.Quote:
Originally Posted by DuBbLe C
It might make Jeff feel a little better about it though. I would sure want to give him more than a piece of my mind.
I would want to give him a... a... foot up the @$s. They will fire me before I BOW to the will of some self righteous prick. Dont let him make you a chump jeff. Dont roll over for squat. If you cant beat him legally or get this to stop you make sure he remembers you the rest his life.
If you can put a 4.8 ext cab in the 13s then you can beat a punk!
Have your wife call his house every day that he's on shift and ask his wife in a very sultry voice if "Big John" is home. :lol:
yeah. I don't think I am better than these guys at all. I just don't spend my spare time trying to find things they aren't doing, or that they are doing wrong. Daniel, PM me please. I am going to carry a tape recorder on me at all times. A recorded voice is better than a thousand witnesses.
This guys doesnt have a wife, or kids. He openly admits to paying for sex. And they only girlfriends he has had, are strippers, that he has to pay. This is from his, and his friends mouths before I got targeted. He is in his mid 40's, and has only 7 years in. I was talking to my grandmother, and she said. ''I think I know why they are pissed at you''. We all just got a raise, but I got the best review, and the best raise in the department. I'm guessing thats why I'M a target now. :sad:
i would not let that crap get to you....
Beat them at their own game! Pick out things they are doing wrong and make a note of it. Be sure and tell them they are doing something wrong or not doing it at all. Tape recorder would be good. Make sure you have the recorder on when you tell them what they are not doing or doing it right. This will piss them off, but will save your butt in the long run.
Jamest
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Originally Posted by ff_jeff
All this over a cat? Why would superiors care that much about an incident (or fabbed incident) like that?
If you have had your food or drink tampered with it's considered assault. If someone puts any of their "stuff" (spit, poop, etc.) on you, they've assualted you. If they've messed with your belongings they may have trespassed or some other crime. If anything like these examples have taken place, you need an attorney. If not, maybe not.
This is truly a catch 22 as you really can't do much about them but who wants to quit and have the bullies win in principle...?
Can you transfer to another station?
Isn't this why you transferred down to Liberty Jeff? Because some tools down at the old station you volunteered at?
People these days....
My cousin is a paralegal....I could ask her some questions and have her get in touch with you if you wanted???
The only thing is that shes not a REAL lawyer....
You have the right idea. Don't let this idiot get to ya. You are the better person and that will shine through. Especially since you faired better in reviews and etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by ff_jeff
Thats what I said. I think that some neiborhood kids probably did it. Department is only 2 stations and we rotate every month.Quote:
Originally Posted by GasGuzzler
Naw. I was mad because The chiefs son got hired over me, even though I scored higher, and tested higher. I got hired at another department right after that years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by duckysbht
That's the problem. I think now that I got a write up, or written verbal, My probation period extends 6 more months. I was only 2 months away. from 1 year at this department. a few days ago the chief was telling me to keep up the good work. Today, My LT and the assistant chief don't know if they can trust me??? What makes me the most angry, is they wont listen to me at all. They don't hear my side, or let me defend myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by zeake
I came to this department because they payed A LOT better. But now I'm thinking its not worth it. Money doesnt buy happiness. I love the job. I hate the politics and the people.
recording someone without their permission is illegal and can get you in more trouble then you know.
once someone finds out you make more then them, they do whatever they can to make your life hell.
older guys think cause they been there longer and have done this and that. think they are superior in everything and should get all the easier jobs, higher paid, better chairs to sit on and etc. they think a younger smarter, faster, etc person isnt worth their time. Old guys are usually grandfather'd thru the system and have less IQ then a younger guy that comes up thru the schools. They clearly say youre all book but have no idea in real life. sorry bud that isnt true either. triple threat is the way to be and the old guys are single threats but they still want paid more and do less. Society is ****ed up. i see it as hungriest dog should EAT. NOT the laziest dog that finds the way out of things
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Originally Posted by Quik
I agree with that completely. Seriously sounds more like he is jealous of himself being a loser and you being a winner. Come on what kind of life is that for a 40 yr old. He has NO stability in his life. You have a wife, drive a vette and smarter then him.... I would say this dude burnt the wiskers off the cat and pointed the finger at you tryin to drag you down to his level.
How does anyone find out what others make or how much a raise is..?
We all know base salary because its public info. I guess he was told My raise % from an officer. Who also might be pissed. To make it clear. the rest of the department got a 2-4% raise. I got an 8% raise. My evaluation was almost perfect. And it was done by the same officer who wrote me up yesterday.Quote:
Originally Posted by GasGuzzler
I admit, I need to learn a lot in my career. And that I make mistakes. But I know what I did, and what is right. And I know that this guy is definitely out to get me either fired, or whatever.
You have another problem if the boss is spilling raise info.
werd. I dont care if people know what I make. I just dont wanna be harassed at work, by people that are mad at the system.Quote:
Originally Posted by GasGuzzler
really sound like u need to have a heart to heart with your chief, the on that likes or trusts u, then nothin left to worry about, if he already knows ur doin good job, and if he know the situation ur dealin with these jokers, then theres not much to worry about. might even try silent treatment with them for a while, dont pay em any attention or talk to them, just stay hard at it and ignore em.
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Originally Posted by duckysbht
Dude--Greg...some of your other posts were funny, but this one is FANTASTIC. Keep up the good work lady! :thumb:Quote:
Originally Posted by RedHeartbeat
Request a meeting with the Chief and this guy and then call him out on it in front of the chief. My local Department would highly frown upon any of the firefighters hanging out in a the but hut. They are expected to set a higher standard. Check your local laws on the recording issue. It may be legal and not admissible in a court every state is different. Its legal in Alabama as long as one person being recorded knows. Like say for instance the guy that hits record on the recorder.
i think you and quik just need to switch places for a day or two. from the sounds of the thread floating around about him he will tell this guy how it is and you can get him out of trouble!!!
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