New PB's 1/8 and 1/4

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11-22-2008, 02:20 AM
-HIC-

New PB's 1/8 and 1/4

I have videos, but for some reason my time was not showing even though I cleary did not have N/T on my window... I will post em up later but here is the breakdown of the fastest slip I could find. I think I had a 11.70, but I cant find the slip, so here is the fastest for now.

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60' 1.696
330' 4.806
1/8 7.466
1/8 92.30
1000' 9.800
1/4 11.796
1/4 112.50

Anyway, like Kevin said in his post the track was slick, so we all had traction issues tonight. I got warned at the time both that 1 tenth faster in the 1/8th and I will need a jacket and roll bar. The funniest part of the night was rolling up next to the same yellow GTO that I ran into Sunday!

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11-22-2008, 04:06 AM
ff_jeff

Nice man... congrats. looks like youll be needing a cage next huh?
11-22-2008, 07:54 AM
ducky

helll yeah!
11-22-2008, 08:48 AM
TurboMic

nice
11-22-2008, 09:03 AM
-HIC-

Quote:

Originally Posted by ff_jeff

Nice man... congrats. looks like youll be needing a cage next huh?

Not a full cage. I am going to get something like flaco has, it is just a roll bar that has bars running down the side as well. No bars out the back window or lexan. He said his is good to 9's which ill never see :(
11-22-2008, 09:22 AM
RedHeartbeat

Makes me wonder if you can use an in-bed rollbar like 4wd trucks run. :confused:
11-22-2008, 10:05 AM
-HIC-

Not sure on that one Greg!

I have a few issues to work out still.

I like to pull all my plugs after each run to check them, the problem is that Taylor wires are junk and they pull apart even with the tool, so I spent an hour after the first run fixing plug wires. Needless to say I think my "repairs" hurt my later runs.

I am going down to a 150 shot to eliminate any traction problems. The other thing I cant pin down is my AFR. It is fine in first and second (11.6-7) Then goes rich in 3rd all the way down to 10.2 through the traps.

I also need to work on my converter lockup speed under WOT in 3rd gear the engine is going out of the power band so I will just lock the converter around 95 mph. Or I might just change to a cam that pulls higher RPM's
11-22-2008, 10:12 AM
RedHeartbeat

Sounds like you're running out of fuel supply from the intank fuel pump. When you take off, the injector pulse is longer on the injectors and is taking more of the fuel. As you go down the track the engine isn't requiring as much fuel as at the launch and the fuel is now being diverted to the nitrous jets most likely causing your rich issue. Get a standalone fuel system.
11-22-2008, 10:14 AM
RedHeartbeat

As for the converter, setup your tune so that the converter does not lock in 3rd gear when under WOT.
11-22-2008, 10:48 AM
-HIC-

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedHeartbeat

Sounds like you're running out of fuel supply from the intank fuel pump. When you take off, the injector pulse is longer on the injectors and is taking more of the fuel. As you go down the track the engine isn't requiring as much fuel as at the launch and the fuel is now being diverted to the nitrous jets most likely causing your rich issue. Get a standalone fuel system.

Actually, I just looked at my scan and this makes perfect sense! Actually a standalone would be sweet, instead of changing jets to make the finite adjustments I can just raise or lower the fuel pressure.
11-22-2008, 10:50 AM
RedHeartbeat

Plus you can put 104 unleaded race fuel in the tank. :rock:
11-22-2008, 10:54 AM
-HIC-

Yep, that will sure beat mixing!
11-22-2008, 01:53 PM
skeet

if i recall flacos, does go through the floor board and is welded (attached to the frame) i seen it when he took all interior out and was mauking it up for fabbing, could be wrong but i doubt flaco would use something thats not legal since hes seriuos about his racing!!

brian, you did have a 11:70 run you showed me the slip!! awesome times man, just needed a little more traction
11-22-2008, 10:25 PM
ff_jeff

Quote:

Originally Posted by -HIC-

Actually, I just looked at my scan and this makes perfect sense! Actually a standalone would be sweet, instead of changing jets to make the finite adjustments I can just raise or lower the fuel pressure.

Maybe try getting a NANO system... It hold the pressure at a constant PSI. The longer you spray... the more pressure you loose. It will gradually get richer cause of lack of N2o pressure. NANO fixes this by keeping the pressure at 1050... or whatever you preset it to be. PLus you wont need a warmer
11-22-2008, 10:28 PM
-HIC-

I talked to Flaco last night and he said he is putting his truck under the knife again for a full halo cage. So I am sure he is aware that what he has will not cut muster in a full NHRA tech. ****.. most of us wont pass tech. I dont have a DS loop and I run 11.7. and I run 7.45 in the 1/8th with nothing more than a helmet. I know it is risky, and I am going to make improvements.
11-22-2008, 10:34 PM
-HIC-

Quote:

Originally Posted by ff_jeff

Maybe try getting a NANO system... It hold the pressure at a constant PSI. The longer you spray... the more pressure you loose. It will gradually get richer cause of lack of N2o pressure. NANO fixes this by keeping the pressure at 1050... or whatever you preset it to be. PLus you wont need a warmer

Heh,
That is not the problem. It is the lack of required safty equip. That keeps me running fat shots. I like to run 1/8th. I have been warned more than once that if I run 7.35 I am done. I ran 7.40 last night with nothing more than a helmet. **** it scares me. I doubt I will be running until I get my truck NHRA legal.
11-22-2008, 10:44 PM
-HIC-

Quick,
You and I agree on alot of things.. This is just not one of them. Flaco is known at our home track, so I doubt they would let him run without being legal. This is a pic of his engine that went 10.9 on motor. It is built for the gas and he is shooting for 9.30's

http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h5...81/Flaco_1.jpg
11-22-2008, 11:11 PM
-HIC-

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Originally Posted by Quik

2005 NHRA E.T. Quick Reference Chart

also he needs a transblanket or scatter shield to be legal

not mention when going faster then 9.99 you need a comp. license. this is where they make you and your vehicle do several incomplete and complete passes to obtain and see if vehicle meets its requirements. Ppl have run faster then 9.99 with no license but are doing it illegally and wont be allowed to perticipate in any on going NHRA/IHRA events where points are given out

I know from my time with Flaco last night he has all the above. The only question is the down bars from his roll bar to the bed.
11-22-2008, 11:12 PM
-HIC-

As for me, I will not be running anymore until I get my truck more inline with the rules.
11-22-2008, 11:19 PM
RedHeartbeat

Its funny that guys that will break laws racing on the street would worry about NHRA/IHRA rules. :laugh:
11-22-2008, 11:23 PM
skeet

:beerchug::burnrub: so true lol
11-22-2008, 11:30 PM
-HIC-

Heh, I dont run nitrous on the street, and my street trim will not catch traction until 3rd!! Flaco will be at the meet in Feb, so you all can make your judgements then.

Actually, I am suprised my little 5.3 is not blown up by now. I know I got the "it will not hold" from more than one member on this board.
11-22-2008, 11:48 PM
skeet

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quik

ok then his truck isnt legal then. so if youre thinking of getting same bar as his then its not legal and wont pass tech

its not legal per NHRA rules we know this, flaco knows this also, bottom line is it boils down to if youre gonna run comp then you have to play by the rules!! pretty simple!! if the techs lets ya run at your local tracks or wherever, well enjoy it, cause the next time you may not beable to run!!!
11-22-2008, 11:54 PM
skeet

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quik

let it be known wasnt knocking Flaco truck just that if HIC wants to get a bar in his truck might as well make it legit or dont waste the money or time on getting a hollywood bar

i understand bro and i am sure brian does also. i know youre not knocking flaco or anyone, but your points are correct if youre gonna do something why not do it totally legally and be done with it..
11-23-2008, 12:49 AM
-HIC-

its a lot of money to me right before Christmas!!! Sheet, Skeet kows my truck is towned down to pass the little old lady in the booth!
11-23-2008, 01:14 AM
MKader17

Guess my goal for my truck is now 11.5. =P Sure don't want to worry about a 5 point cage.

HIC, your 5.3 is a beast, its my 5.3's hero lol. It gives me confidence that my truck can hold some more good mods. How many miles are on your truck?
11-23-2008, 02:26 AM
bluecajun5.3

congrats on the new best Bryan!
just keep with it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quik

will say this HIC. your and a few others with 5.3s really catch my attention. the results you fellows are getting from that motor is impressive. My 6litre had afew issues with it but wasnt no were near as impressive as some of the times some 5.3s are running. granted i know you south ppl have better elevation and better tracks but its makes you wonder why go large cubes sometimes

humm. wonder where he got his combo from...
:bow:
11-23-2008, 05:35 PM
vv8

hahahaa lance!!
11-23-2008, 06:34 PM
PurpleMinivan

Congrats! I think I remember someone saying that truck had an 11.7 pass in it?

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Originally Posted by DBTBSS

Good work Brian! Should be good for an 11.7 pass.

Oh wait... It was me!
11-23-2008, 09:29 PM
-HIC-

heh, you were right on! Although I have my timing and fueling kind of mild right now to stay under the radar!
11-23-2008, 09:36 PM
vv8

Quote:

Originally Posted by -HIC-

heh, you were right on! Although I have my timing and fueling kind of mild right now to stay under the radar!

under the radar for what????
11-23-2008, 09:39 PM
-HIC-

one tenth faster in the 1/8th and I am done until I get a jacket and cage. I was warned twice on Friday.
11-23-2008, 09:59 PM
vv8

well untill you run it make it go as fast as it can then worry about the track rules once you get there, you can run as fast as you want till they send you home hahhaaa
11-23-2008, 10:16 PM
-HIC-

Quote:

Originally Posted by vv8

well untill you run it make it go as fast as it can then worry about the track rules once you get there, you can run as fast as you want till they send you home hahhaaa

This is true! Although I dont think my wife sees it the same way!! At least she is onboard with saftey mods!!
11-23-2008, 10:28 PM
vv8

well its time to run it N/A untill you get the funds for the roll cage and more nawws ahhhaa
11-23-2008, 11:16 PM
-HIC-

Man, I am so on the fence with this truck. I dont know if I want to build another engine and cage, 4 link it, or just throw the entire driveline into a donor S-10. Either way I will be building a forged 370, I just dont know where it will live yet.
11-24-2008, 09:03 PM
GasGuzzler

Right on...right on....
11-24-2008, 09:32 PM
skeet

Quote:

Originally Posted by -HIC-

Man, I am so on the fence with this truck. I dont know if I want to build another engine and cage, 4 link it, or just throw the entire driveline into a donor S-10. Either way I will be building a forged 370, I just dont know where it will live yet.

dude just build the 370 and shut f_uck up and run it NA and do the cage later

you know you want it just do it!!

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