Do I have to get new lifters going from a stock cam to a .220/.220 .581/.581 115 lsa Comp? I already have the Patirot dual gold springs and titanium retainers and I plan on upgrading rods. Anything else that I may have missed?? :help:
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Do I have to get new lifters going from a stock cam to a .220/.220 .581/.581 115 lsa Comp? I already have the Patirot dual gold springs and titanium retainers and I plan on upgrading rods. Anything else that I may have missed?? :help:
Factory roller lifters can be safely reused.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ramair2002 @ May 15 2007, 10:30 AM) [snapback]93467[/snapback]</div>Quote:
Do I have to get new lifters going from a stock cam to a .220/.220 .581/.581 115 lsa Comp? I already have the Patirot dual gold springs and titanium retainers and I plan on upgrading rods. Anything else that I may have missed?? :help:
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as long as you don't exceed the amount of press. a stock lifter can handle you'll be fine. i know the camaro guys get away with those cams all the time so why can't you. when you say rods do you mean pushrods?
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as long as you don't exceed the amount of press. a stock lifter can handle you'll be fine. i know the camaro guys get away with those cams all the time so why can't you. when you say rods do you mean pushrods?
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Yep, new pushrods. I'm told that they are a must.
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Yep, new pushrods. I'm told that they are a must.
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i know guys that got away with it in the f-bodies and vettes but i would never recommend it cause the new cam will spin the motor higher and faster so they are a good investment and a safe bet for a little extra money. how many miles are on your motor? that also determines if you need new lifters or not.
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i know guys that got away with it in the f-bodies and vettes but i would never recommend it cause the new cam will spin the motor higher and faster so they are a good investment and a safe bet for a little extra money. how many miles are on your motor? that also determines if you need new lifters or not.
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I've got about 63k on the motor.
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I've got about 63k on the motor.
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you should be good, i say should be because we all know mechanical things can go out at any time even with out mods. but you going to love a cam especially with that turbo. is that cam meant for a turbo motor or is that just a off the shelf cam? just curious cause even the cam i have for my LT1 Z28 has a split profile and its for N/A or a small shot, but its a solid roller.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(imperial07 @ May 15 2007, 01:24 PM) [snapback]93504[/snapback]</div>Talking with Allen at Nelson, he says that it is good for a turbo. I think Foggy and several others on this site have the same cam with their turbo.Quote:
you should be good, i say should be because we all know mechanical things can go out at any time even with out mods. but you going to love a cam especially with that turbo. is that cam meant for a turbo motor or is that just a off the shelf cam? just curious cause even the cam i have for my LT1 Z28 has a split profile and its for N/A or a small shot, but its a solid roller.
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<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ramair2002 @ May 15 2007, 02:02 PM) [snapback]93511[/snapback]</div>ok just asking cause one of my camaro buddies has a sts kit and was going to go with a off the shelf cam that was for N2O and it was going to hurt more than help him.Quote:
Talking with Allen at Nelson, he says that it is good for a turbo. I think Foggy and several others on this site have the same cam with their turbo.
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Pushrods and springs are what you'll want with the cam since you already have the reatiners. Your lifters are plenty fine for that lift. Alot of guys run the .220/.220-581/581 cam on 112 LSA and that might be what's hurting them. I think the 115 LSA would be better eventhough the cam I'm running now is a 228/ 232 588/575 - 113 and is a boost grind also.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ramair2002 @ May 15 2007, 02:02 PM) [snapback]93511[/snapback]</div>Quote:
Talking with Allen at Nelson, he says that it is good for a turbo. I think Foggy and several others on this site have the same cam with their turbo. [/b]
Dude--nice cam! Mine is almost the same--check sig for specs... Yeah, like what was said, 7.4 hardened pushrods must be done. Your cam is a good candidate for FI. The 115 LSA will keep it more civilized for DD. Those PRC springs are probably some of the best out there, as well as those Ti retainers. You are definitely building it with the right equipement to go FI. The stock lifter will be fine. Those springs are a very high performance spring. Since they are a lot stiffer than others (Comp 918's), you will need to be careful with them. They will need a proper warm up period everytime you cold start it. You really shouldn't start it up, then rap it up to 4k RPMs...you should keep the RPMs pretty low (~2k-2.5k) until normal operating temps have occurred. Your valvetrain will be noticeably louder, only because of the high rate of spring---you will have a louder clickity-clickity from the springs. Nothing to worry about, it is just how they sound. You will be very happy with what you have purchased...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(txarkitekt @ May 17 2007, 11:48 AM) [snapback]93793[/snapback]</div>Quote:
Yeah, like what was said, 7.4 hardened pushrods must be done. Your cam is a good candidate for FI. The 115 LSA will keep it more civilized for DD. Those PRC springs are probably some of the best out there, as well as those Ti retainers. You are definitely building it with the right equipement to go FI. The stock lifter will be fine. Those springs are a very high performance spring. Since they are a lot stiffer than others (Comp 918's), you will need to be careful with them. They will need a proper warm up period everytime you cold start it. You really shouldn't start it up, then rap it up to 4k RPMs...you should keep the RPMs pretty low (~2k-2.5k) until normal operating temps have occurred. Your valvetrain will be noticeably louder, only because of the high rate of spring---you will have a louder clickity-clickity from the springs. Nothing to worry about, it is just how they sound. You will be very happy with what you have purchased...
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I'm glad you mentioned that about the springs clicking because I notice every morning when I start it and leave my house that I hear the clicking. I thought something might have been messed up but the sounds go away after being run for just a few minutes. And I never get on it until I reach full operating temp just to be sure everything is ready for the beating!! :burnout:
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I'm glad you mentioned that about the springs clicking because I notice every morning when I start it and leave my house that I hear the clicking. I thought something might have been messed up but the sounds go away after being run for just a few minutes. And I never get on it until I reach full operating temp just to be sure everything is ready for the beating!! :burnout: [/b]
Yeah, the good thing is that the ticking goes away when the turbo screams! :burnout: You'll absolutely love that cam! It will pull wayyyy hard up top with your turbo! :thumb:
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ramair2002 @ May 15 2007, 02:02 PM) [snapback]93511[/snapback]</div>YOU WILL LOVE THE CAM. I HAVE THE SAME CAM AND SETUP, EXCEPT A 6.OL. I HAVE A TON OF TQ, AND A LOT OF TOP END. IT NEVER STOPS PULLING. YOU WILL LOVE IT.Quote:
Talking with Allen at Nelson, he says that it is good for a turbo. I think Foggy and several others on this site have the same cam with their turbo.
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JAMEST
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Jamest @ May 17 2007, 01:57 PM) [snapback]93797[/snapback]</div>Quote:
YOU WILL LOVE THE CAM. I HAVE THE SAME CAM AND SETUP, EXCEPT A 6.OL. I HAVE A TON OF TQ, AND A LOT OF TOP END. IT NEVER STOPS PULLING. YOU WILL LOVE IT.
JAMEST
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I see in your sig that you've got a Yank 3200. How do you like it and where did you get it?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(ramair2002 @ May 17 2007, 03:48 PM) [snapback]93809[/snapback]</div>BOUGHT IT FROM YANK, TALK TO DAVE MYERS HE WILL GET YOU WHAT YOU NEED. I LOVE IT, DRIVES ALMOST LIKE THE STOCK ONE DID. NO PROBLEMS YET.Quote:
I see in your sig that you've got a Yank 3200. How do you like it and where did you get it?
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