Three hundred!!!!!!! :woot:
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Three hundred!!!!!!! :woot:
look a butterfly http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_YdS4XdJhpr...nds-785760.JPG
sorry, recently saw 'i am legend'
oh no, i didnt use quotes or capitalize
I think we've all gone mad. Seriously, shut the hell up about grammar and punctuation. I don't think anyone on this site is in a position to bust balls, especially when you look back through this thread. Keep your arguements directed towards the subject at hand, and stop acting like a nagging elementary school teacher.
Oh, and one other thing.........LS enjun make BBC enjun looks like poopoo and be exiled to boat anchor duty. Hardee har har
I think that motor is kinda expensive for most people. I also think if someone was looking to make that kind of power, they'd probably go with a private builder(or build it themselves) for cheaper and possibly make more power. I've heard of a few guys with the LSX454 shortblocks in their trucks though. Now that I think about it, I've heard of 4 or more cases of problems with the lifters or lifter bores or something like that....pretty much a flaw in the block. That was my initial reason for not putting one in my truck during the recent rebuild. Me personally, I think I can hit my personal goals with a smaller motor, so I don't see a need for spending big bucks on the 454LSX crate just yet. If I was looking to drop rediculous cubic inches in my truck I think I'd try a big block first, but I'm still a rookie so I don't know s!!t. By the way I'm a "all motor" guy, I'm not into power adders yet...if I was I'd choose a turbo LSX hands down.Quote:
Originally Posted by TDK08
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Why did this post go beyond one page of posts? The question was answered on the first page. It amazes me how people argue on the internet comparing apples to oranges the whole time. BBC 40+ year old technology. LS 15+ I would hope stock for stock a newer engine design would out perform an older engine design. It all comes down to budget, longevity, and preference. My god every one on here needs to pull their panties out of their asses and grow up. Now you have to prove your who you are and post pics of it? Gimme a break seriously, has anyone ever heard of the honor system? If you dont believe someone has what they say they have call them out in a new thread and pm them with the link so they know about it. That way everyone else doesnt have to read through 31 pages of BS before they post. I on the rare occasion i call someone out I start a new thread.
If i had the money I would build a 450+inch lsx simply because you can disguise over big block cubes as a iron block 5.3ls and win 95% of all street races you come up against and take all the money. If you have a big block it makes it hard to prey on agrumentative street punks that dont know any better. Almost everyone on the street fears a big block no matter what brand! However there seem to be quite a few on here that arent afraid to race a big block and there is nothing wrong with that. Some will loose and never learn, others will win and know to watch out next time.
If i really had the money I would build a 496 bbc and scare all would be street races with the sound! lol I bought an 85' c-10 short bed with a pos 454 in right after high school, it that was a lot of fun! i could never get anyone to race me when i opened the hood. When i finally blew it up the crank was 20/20 block was bored 60 it had some dished pistons, some flat tops and an rv 262 cam, like someone built it from swap meet parts! It wasnt anything to brag about by any means. It ran low 13's with welded up differential with 3.42 gears and a stock 400 that I had to let off for it to shift at 4500 rpm the engine was all out of breath at about 4500 rpm anyway. I had some 29x15.5 mikey thompson sportsman pro's that stuck out the fenders about 2 inches and it would leave two light black marks for about 10 feet just from punching it no stalling it up and I got 13 mpg no matter what. It was way more fun on the street than a 13 second truck should be, and stop light to stop light it was a terror! I dont know about anyone else but its hard to beat the low end torque of a big block with anything other than another big block. I didnt care about fuel mileage, i didnt care about how funny the tires looked sticking out, I didnt care about how big of a pos the engine acutally was, I didnt care about how much the engine weighed, i didnt care about oil leaks, I had a blast driving it and got a lot of respect on the street, especailly after dusting a z-28 or vette between stop lights...in a truck.
I would really like to see the torque under the curve of a ls based 454 and a bbc based 454 that are acutally somewhat comparable and I dont mean by using stock parts but by using components like heads that flow close to the same, same compression ratio, single plane intakes, hydraulic roller cams, and same carb set ups. Some might argue that stock rectangle heads are too big for a street big block so one with oval ports and rectangle ports would have to be built. Then maybe there would be a reason to argue, but then again its still apples to oranges. big block has canted valves ls has wedge style. big block has good ports and bad ports, ls has identical ports, big block has to run distributor ls doesnt, big block has extreamely heavy valve train, ls doesnt. big block has 65-70 pound crank ls doesnt. big block has heavy rods and pistons ls doesnt. those are just a few and all of them have been addressed in the 30+ years it took gm to put the ls into production.
I think the big block would make more torque especially with the oval ports and thats what you need on the street. It all depends on the purpose of the engine and what it was built to do. I could build a big block or an ls and be happy but for the street a big block is tough.
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Come on guys let this crap go already.
In before the lock!