1995 suburban 8.1L swap?

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Originally Posted by jansen

I remember when I was 15..... Lol

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seriously, im getting all this crap, just because of my age! i swear! no one can accept that i want a swap that bolts in with little or no fab work, and that i have done HOURS of research on whats best for it. but im 15, so none of that matters, huh? whatever... i know enough people that will be able to help on the ods and ends, i will get the engine, put it in, run it on a buddy's dyno, and post the numbers here... and still get crap for not going with the 6.0L.

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Originally Posted by 00_Silverado_Z71

Lol

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hmm?

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Originally Posted by smithkid1996

1995 454, there is a difference, they made this engin for only 2 years in the suburban 2500, silverado 2500, and silverado 3500 (and a few cometial vehicals, im sure) but im tired of all this crap because you think im being a know it all, i have allready done TONS of research on our truck, and i know what will, and will not work.

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No the 95 TBI 454 engine was around from 90-95 (GEN V BBC). The 454SS trucks had that same engine and they started production in 90 as well.

Mark IV BBC pre-90
GEN V 90-95
Vortec 7.4L 96-00

There are tons of parts for the Mark IV that will interchange on the TBI BBC, and there are lots of people running TBI or Tunnel ram setups on Mark IVs.

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Originally Posted by PitchBlackC3

No the 95 TBI 454 engine was around from 90-95 (GEN V BBC). The 454SS trucks had that same engine and they started production in 90 as well.

Mark IV BBC pre-90
GEN V 90-95
Vortec 7.4L 96-00

There are tons of parts for the Mark IV that will interchange on the TBI BBC, and there are lots of people running TBI or Tunnel ram setups on Mark IVs.

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ok, then tell me this, when i look for parts on our suburban they either fit 1991-1993 or 1994-1995 or 1996-2004.

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Originally Posted by smithkid1996

ok, then tell me this, when i look for parts on our suburban they either fit 1991-1993 or 1994-1995 or 1996-2004.

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So you think 96-2004 all have the same engine?
Yes, there are some small differences between the accessories and sensors 90-93 and 94-95, but not much. The body style is also different from 90-91 and 92-99.

I don't care what engine you want to put in. I always liked towing with the big block trucks we've had before. Go with what you like and godspeed to you.

But regardless, this is a site dedicated to LS series engined trucks. What other response did you expect?

Agreed you get in a site based on LS motors and expect someone to tell you to run something other than a LS motor. might look into gmt400.com or fullsizechevy.com for your answers

:burns: ill be the one getting the ram! j/k seriously hope you do too!

The ''big deal out of the sentence'' is because i think its funny you said it was a good deal because it actually worth 9k, and then you were going to bring proof by showing some ads that someone else posted. but hey what do i know its probably a real ''cream puff'' or ''my loss is your gain'' kinda thing.:lol:

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Originally Posted by PitchBlackC3

So you think 96-2004 all have the same engine?
Yes, there are some small differences between the accessories and sensors 90-93 and 94-95, but not much. The body style is also different from 90-91 and 92-99.

I don't care what engine you want to put in. I always liked towing with the big block trucks we've had before. Go with what you like and godspeed to you.

But regardless, this is a site dedicated to LS series engined trucks. What other response did you expect?

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i dont think they have the same engine, thats why i made that comment. and i dont care how small the differences are that your talking about are, they all still say parts only go on 1994-1995 suburbans...

because this site was recomended by someone eles online who did an 8.1L swap.

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Originally Posted by smithkid1996

because this site was recomended by someone eles online who did an 8.1L swap.

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This site caters to LS swaps. That's why it's called LS1truck. We don't bother with 8.1s for a reason. We like to have driveablity, reliability, fuel mileage, and more power than you'll see an 8.1 produce. You aren't going to have an easy time here looking for 8.1 information. You might as well come in here asking for 5.4 Ford info. We aren't trying to be douchebags. You came to the wrong site for 8.1 support, that's all. The fact that you're 15 and act like you know everything (yet you're still here... asking questions) is not going to get you anywhere. All you've done is come in here and show off Daddy's cars and act like we have no idea what we're talking about.

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Originally Posted by pl4yboy

This site caters to LS swaps. That's why it's called LS1truck. We don't bother with 8.1s for a reason. We like to have driveablity, reliability, fuel mileage, and more power than you'll see an 8.1 produce. You aren't going to have an easy time here looking for 8.1 information. You might as well come in here asking for 5.4 Ford info. We aren't trying to be douchebags. You came to the wrong site for 8.1 support, that's all. The fact that you're 15 and act like you know everything (yet you're still here... asking questions) is not going to get you anywhere. All you've done is come in here and show off Daddy's cars and act like we have no idea what we're talking about.

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this just made my day..... exactly what i was getting at from the start

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Originally Posted by pl4yboy

This site caters to LS swaps. That's why it's called LS1truck. We don't bother with 8.1s for a reason. We like to have driveablity, reliability, fuel mileage, and more power than you'll see an 8.1 produce. You aren't going to have an easy time here looking for 8.1 information. You might as well come in here asking for 5.4 Ford info. We aren't trying to be douchebags. You came to the wrong site for 8.1 support, that's all. The fact that you're 15 and act like you know everything (yet you're still here... asking questions) is not going to get you anywhere. All you've done is come in here and show off Daddy's cars and act like we have no idea what we're talking about.

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LMAO, how am i being a know it all? this site was recomended to me so i could get help on the ods and ends, then i come on, post my questions, and i bassicaly get told swap a 6.0L and that im 15 so i know nothing; allthough i spend more time under the cars then i do in the house. and how am i showing off dadys cars??? IM BUILDING THE OLDS FOR ME, posted the burb' because thats why im here, and posted the fiat because i like it, i didn't post our 40 HIGH END muscle cars in new mexico, and didn't post the millions of dollars worth of cars we have access to at any moment. if i wanted to show off, i would have posted 10 or 20 of the best of those cars. but what ever... it doesn't seem to have acurred to any of you that i know my way around a car and have worked on cars you people can only dream of (tons of things from the 50s including a 55' thunderbird, bel airs, 57' caddy ect) and that i might know what i want in our truck.

what ever, tell me how im acting like i know everything and showing off all of dadys cars, please. whatever. the fact that i want a swap that bolts in with allmost no fab work is just way to hard to comprehend. every sujestion that has been made, i have given a valid reason why we are not going that rout... so whats the problem with that? so, unless you have something to say about the FIRST POST, leave me the hell alone.

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Originally Posted by T-Stark

this just made my day..... exactly what i was getting at from the start

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thanks, but read my responce to the other guy.

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Originally Posted by sloCaddy

:burns: ill be the one getting the ram! j/k seriously hope you do too!

The ''big deal out of the sentence'' is because i think its funny you said it was a good deal because it actually worth 9k, and then you were going to bring proof by showing some ads that someone else posted. but hey what do i know its probably a real ''cream puff'' or ''my loss is your gain'' kinda thing.:lol:

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dont think its worth 9000?

ok, ours is even more clean than this, has 60,000 less miles, and has 4x4- http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1995-...item2eb86e42b9

ours is WAY more clean then this, has a bigger engine, less miles, and 4x4- http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1994-...item25683c44d0

same with this one... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1994-...item27bf119e6c

so yeah, our suburban isn't worth 9000??? i'll keep pulling up adds all day if you want...

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Originally Posted by smithkid1996

LMAO, how am i being a know it all? this site was recomended to me so i could get help on the ods and ends, then i come on, post my questions, and i bassicaly get told swap a 6.0L and that im 15 so i know nothing; allthough i spend more time under the cars then i do in the house. and how am i showing off dadys cars??? IM BUILDING THE OLDS FOR ME, posted the burb' because thats why im here, and posted the fiat because i like it, i didn't post our 40 HIGH END muscle cars in new mexico, and didn't post the millions of dollars worth of cars we have access to at any moment. if i wanted to show off, i would have posted 10 or 20 of the best of those cars. but what ever... it doesn't seem to have acurred to any of you that i know my way around a car and have worked on cars you people can only dream of (tons of things from the 50s including a 55' thunderbird, bel airs, 57' caddy ect) and that i might know what i want in our truck.

what ever, tell me how im acting like i know everything and showing off all of dadys cars, please. whatever. the fact that i want a swap that bolts in with allmost no fab work is just way to hard to comprehend. every sujestion that has been made, i have given a valid reason why we are not going that rout... so whats the problem with that? so, unless you have something to say about the FIRST POST, leave me the hell alone.

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Seriously... Go find a forum related to 8.1 swaps if you aren't going to listen to us. I don't care who referred you here. We're an LS based community.

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Originally Posted by pl4yboy

Seriously... Go find a forum related to 8.1 swaps if you aren't going to listen to us. I don't care who referred you here. We're an LS based community.

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thats all your going to respond to? really? please tell me how i was being a know it all, and showing off dadys cars. i want to see you try...

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Originally Posted by smithkid1996

thats all your going to respond to? really? please tell me how i was being a know it all, and showing off dadys cars. i want to see you try...

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I've got better things to do than argue with a kid. Unless you can contribute to this forum, stop talking trash constantly, or be civil, maybe you should take your prepubescent problems elsewhere.

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Originally Posted by pl4yboy

I've got better things to do than argue with a kid. Unless you can contribute to this forum, stop talking trash constantly, or be civil, maybe you should take your prepubescent problems elsewhere.

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no, im being civil, please tell me how im being a know it all and showing off all dadys cars so i can get better. ok? thats all im asking, because i dont see where i went wrong. so, please help me get better. i started talking trash (im not "constently talking trash" just one comment) because im getting because of my age and age alone, at this point i dont care what you people think because you guys are not going to answer the questions i had... and what problems exactly do i have that i need to take elsewhere? so yeah, if you can truthfully answer those i would be happy. thanks!

I don't think you understand. I'm not your therapist. I'm a guy who is sick of watching you constantly belittle other forum members comments. If you cannot accept our advice, look for it elsewhere.

Go start an e-fight elsewhere.

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Originally Posted by pl4yboy

I don't think you understand. I'm not your therapist. I'm a guy who is sick of watching you constantly belittle other forum members comments. If you cannot accept our advice, look for it elsewhere.

Go start an e-fight elsewhere.

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just tell me where i went wrong... i will get better, and stop bothering you. so, just tell me what the problem is, im calm, civil, and not fighting, so tell me how i was being a know it all and showing off all of dadys cars.

You're an arrogant ignorant little C U Next Tuesday. Age has little to do with it. Had you have came on here without the massive chip on your shoulder and attitude problem there wouldn't have any problems. A little more research on your behalf before saying everyone else was wrong would have benefited you. But no, you had the gull to say there was no aftermarket for a 454 and say the 8.1 was holier than thou.

There's a reason GM dropped production of it. There's a reason why it's either Duramax or 6.0 in an HD truck.

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Originally Posted by Frenchy

You're an arrogant ignorant little C U Next Tuesday. Age has little to do with it. Had you have came on here without the massive chip on your shoulder and attitude problem there wouldn't have any problems. A little more research on your behalf before saying everyone else was wrong would have benefited you. But no, you had the gull to say there was no aftermarket for a 454 and say the 8.1 was holier than thou.

There's a reason GM dropped production of it. There's a reason why it's either Duramax or 6.0 in an HD truck.

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ok, here, i will stop saying there is not aftermarkit for the TBI454, when you can tell me why parts for this engine fit 1994-1995, and no one has givven me a definite answer, ok? im not going to order random 454 parts and when they get here notice "hey, half of this has got to go" because you guys thing its all universal... and i would swap a duramax (i actually really want to) but my dad hates the way they sound, and i want a swap that bolts in, i keep saying that, or im sure it would be a 6.0L that we are going with, but even though i keep trying to make those points clear, no body will listen to me. so, yeah... and i was actually trying to be nicer, then you went ape on me...

so, im sorry i came across with an attidue, i didn't mean to at first, then all of the comments started rolling in because of my age, and thats when i really stoped careing. and its not that im arrogent, its that someone (was it you, or someone else?) said something about me showing off all dadts cars, and that made me mad because i wasn't showing them off, simply mentioning whats in the driveway, actually none of my friends at school have any idea about the shop or any of the cars...

also, this is a real question, i dont understand what your saying. what do you mean, "You're an arrogant ignorant little C U Next Tuesday." was it a typo, or am i not looking at it rite? i mean, i know i make typos also, i just dont understand what the last part means. i mean, i know you were... well, not happy when writeing that, but like i said, i dont get the last part.

PS: the 8.1L went because of GMs move to the LS series engines and all of the truck engines are losely based off of the LS series engines, and the biggest LS engine is the LS7, in the corevette grandsport (7.0L), so there is no LS series counterpart to the vortec 8100... that plus, the huge decline in truck and SUV sales that started around 2005 or so didn't help matters AT ALL.

ok, so this is very sinsear, i dont have a bad attitude, and am sorry if it came across that way, but untill the coments about my age and the burb being worth nothing, i was fine, happy, just carrying on a conversation. so, yeah, i said sorry that it seems like i came across that way, and i dont know what else you want me to say, so are we good, or do you still hate me?

C U Next Tuesday. What do the capital letters in bold spell?

:lolup:

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Originally Posted by Frenchy

C U Next Tuesday. What do the capital letters in bold spell?

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so i guess you still hate me? i said i was sorry, but you still hate me?

I think I'm just going to put him on my ignore list.

seeing as im the only one who made any remarks about ''the worth of the burb'' we know this is directed at me, so- sorry to offend you- (being serious) however if your in a market that values and sells vehicals for twice the amount of what their worth than i would be happy to send you my truck to sell for me:) your comment about having ''access to millions of dollars worth of vehicals'' would suggest you would know about the used car market- but i guess not. never said your 95 suburban was worth nothing, just not 9k!

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Originally Posted by pl4yboy

I think I'm just going to put him on my ignore list.

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+1

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Originally Posted by sloCaddy

seeing as im the only one who made any remarks about ''the worth of the burb'' we know this is directed at me, so- sorry to offend you- (being serious) however if your in a market that values and sells vehicals for twice the amount of what their worth than i would be happy to send you my truck to sell for me:) your comment about having ''access to millions of dollars worth of vehicals'' would suggest you would know about the used car market- but i guess not. never said your 95 suburban was worth nothing, just not 9k!

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didn't you see the comment i made with all the links? and we deal with OLD CARS (no offence) and i was talking to everyone, but yeah.

ok, im going to try to post the pics of the driveway, and im going to post pics of the shop once i go over there.

ok, here is the suburban, im uploading the pics a fast as i can...

ok, the one of one olds (i would explain, if i wouldn't get yelled at.... (LOL) and the fiat, tomorrow we are taking the fiat, a 53 truck, and a 50' truck to the shop, and bringing home a 63' truck, if there is enough time, so if possible, i will uplode more pics.

yea i saw them, one sold for 2,1xx(very far from 9k) the pewter one will not sell for 8,900 it is the nicest one and is only bid up to 1k, and the red 94 bidding ended 3,250(also very far from 9k).
and im glad you clarified ''OLD CARS'' because that would explain why your confused about what this truck is worth. you have proved my case with your own posts. at first i amused at the idea of someone thinking that old of a stock truck was worth that much, (and i meant to pick on you about it) but i know you will think whatever you will think:melissa:

A four door Olds ninety eight? Keep us updated on what it sell for. I see it has no engine. What are they planning on putting back into it? What is it, a 71?

for get the sub, the olds needs the 8.1 lol!:burnrub:

If you lived in Compton California you'd get some good money for how it sits. They would build it up how they wanted it. A big boat like that makes a nice cruiser and with hydraulics on it the thing would be sweet.

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Originally Posted by RedHeartbeat

If you lived in Compton California you'd get some good money for how it sits. They would build it up how they wanted it. A big boat like that makes a nice cruiser and with hydraulics on it the thing would be sweet.

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we have 3500 in it and have gottan about 3500 dollars worth of fun out of it, it doesn't have a for sale sign on it, but for the right price... it will be some other persons car (or a ford fairlane, my father wants one big time...)

yeah, its a cruiser most days, but its so fast it will pass anything other then the gas station...

i like hydraulics way more then air bags, but it would have to be hydraulics that dont have tons of power where the wheels come off the ground.

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Originally Posted by RedHeartbeat

A four door Olds ninety eight? Keep us updated on what it sell for. I see it has no engine. What are they planning on putting back into it? What is it, a 71?

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LOL, it has an engine, i will post pics of it later (my brother is pestering me for the computer) it has the original engine in it rite now, the car is just on jack stands at the moment because we had to pull the entire cooling system out and re-do everything (we got home one nigh, and the radiator just about blew up... 325 degrees will do that) so that will be finished tomorrow after noon if we have time, i will post pics of it with the front end on the ground at its normal ride height...

its a 1965 olds 98 LS, its one of one- it has the "ultra high compresion" 425 super rocket with 420 hp (first year of that engine, custom order only) three speed hydromatic (custom order only- first year) and 10 bolt posi rear end (custom order only, and EXTREMELY rare) plus power windows, power seats, original AC, delux hubcaps, and a few other options... no to brag, im just saying what the car is, you know? its not bad for 2800, rite? lol. thats 2800 running... it was our daily driver for 6 months, and we had the coolest car on the block. oh yeah, not that it matters because we want to rebuild the engine anyways, but 65,000 original miles.

EDIT: here are pics of the engine, i just got done repainting it a week ago, so im really proud of it... unfortunitly there is over spray in these pics, but all of that has been cleaned (on the cars, and a couple hoses) also, behind one of the pullys is black in the pic, thats also fixed. it was all brown like 2 weeks ago, so its not bad for 12 hours of work and 30 bucks worth of engine paint. admittedly, at this point im not going for a a show car finish, but when im driving i will spend a lot of time in this, so all though its not my first car, im treating like it is (meaning, im not putting 10 grand in chrome on it, but i want it to look nice)... but yeah, this car is just a toy on the weekends, and something for me to tinker with after school on weekdays.

EDIT EDIT: ok, its not letting me post pics at the moment, i will try in an hour or two. but i got to go for now...

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Originally Posted by sloCaddy

for get the sub, the olds needs the 8.1 lol!:burnrub:

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i would have to kill my self, the engine in that car was the best engine made by GM in the mid 60's, and was only made for 3 years, and only in 3 modles, it has really high nickle content in the block, so apperently its the stongest block ever made by GM, 420HP 425TQ and with a tiny carb, so we are throughing a simple tuned up quadrajet on in a few weeks, intresed to see how that turns out... and it was a test engine for caddilac, but still had way more nickle then the caddy ever had.

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Originally Posted by T-Stark

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i said i was sorry, and posted pics, and pics were one of the big things you wanted, and i would think saying sorry would make you not hate me... ok though....