The Arrogance is amazing

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Originally Posted by ramair2002

It's not the car that people don't like, it's the drivers (sometimes). I think they are great cars especially for what you pay for them. They will out perform alot of their competitors for a fraction of the cost and that's with the base model! The drivers on the other hand are right up there with some of the BMW, Merc & Jag owners that I've come across, not all, just some....

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Honestly in my lifetime Ive see two cool vette owners. 1 used it as a car to make it from Close to where I am in Arkansas to Middle of Mississippi in a hour if that (3 hour trip). His normal cruise speed was 120. I can vouch for it being I had a lil vw I had at the time wound out trying to catch up to him. The other one is Virgil's bud Ricky. Only two Ive seen to drive a vette like they should while cool enough to b.s. with non vette owners. The attitude the others have FAR surpasses the ego of a bmw owners. Sometimes even going further then a merc and jag I guess cause they are faster then most merc's and jags

i find that subaru owners have pretty big egos as well.

Wow. Lots of plastic phallus envy in here. :spit:
Naw, I will say this as a vette owner. I dont think its the best thing since sliced bread. I just use it as a benchmark for my buddies to race. If they can beat it, they are fast. If they cant, they need to try harder. I might do heads, cam, headers, or maybe a single mount, But I love the trucks more. ANd the truck will be faster than the vette.
Not all of us are DB's.

The bugatti veyron is at top of the chain as far as fastest production car. top speed is 253 mph. This would be the car I would get if money was no object.

YouTube - Bugatti Veyron VS NISSAN GT-R

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Originally Posted by TATERNATOR

The bugatti veyron is at top of the chain as far as fastest production car. top speed is 253 mph. This would be the car I would get if money was no object.

YouTube - Bugatti Veyron VS NISSAN GT-R

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have you seen a Bugatti? or a GT-R? both are b-e-a-u-tiful!!

people in England have way too much money

It comes down to this.

Some Vette owners buy for status. They want to be seen in the car and it makes them feel superior to others. These are the ones that most of you don't care for.

Some Vette owners are car guys. These are the ones that will talk to anyone about cars. I hope I fit into this category.

Having owned many Vettes and a Viper, I will tell you that the more expensive the car, the bigger the bullseye. Not a lot of people go out of their way to pick on a Hyundai, but many will for a Vette. Sometimes it does get old being challenged at every stop light. I think that is where part of the attitude comes from. The other thing that comes into play is demographics. The average Vette owner is pretty old and they aren't really into street racing or street challenges. I don't think either party is wrong, they just live in two different worlds.

With that being said. I have met a lot of arrogant Vette owners but as a whole, the Viper owners I have met are even more arrogant.

^ you speak the truth. I could understand it getting old with everyone wanting to race you. WHILE at the same time. If you bought a vette you should expect it. You didnt buy it for people to think you were slow and cheap. As even a status symbol it should be accepted that the car will bring challenges.
BTW sorry jeff. I will list you as the third cool vette owners and perhaps that guy ^

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Originally Posted by Show&Go

^ you speak the truth. I could understand it getting old with everyone wanting to race you. WHILE at the same time. If you bought a vette you should expect it. You didnt buy it for people to think you were slow and cheap. As even a status symbol it should be accepted that the car will bring challenges.
BTW sorry jeff. I will list you as the third cool vette owners and perhaps that guy ^

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If ANYONE comes up next to me and I'm in one of my Z06's, it's game on. I love driving my cars to the limit and will take a challenge if and when the coast is clear.

Now, I have to concentrate on buying more parts for my S10/LS1 swap. I'm headed out after work to get power steering pump and brackets, AC compressor and brackets, and valve springs. Tomorrow, I will pick up my crankshaft as I had to have it massaged due to a rod bearing failure while in the hands of the previous owner. Saturday, I'm picking up fuel rails, injectors and alternator. Next week I have to pick up valve covers and a power ring nitrous kit.

This is going to be fun. :naughty:

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Originally Posted by Mang213

without this car, we wouldnt have the LS1.

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Hardly.

The LS1 wouldnt be around if it wasnt for our trucks.

Gen-III small block V8 was designed for trucks and SUV's and they
made a few out of aluminum for the Vets and Maros.

Probably 10,000 LM7 and LQ9 made for every one LS1 and LS2

Ummmm....it was made for NASCAR an when that was not allowed it was put into production anyway in the Vette two years before trucks. Really. Yes, there are more truck engines....because there are more trucks. Don't forget the Camaro got killed the 5th year they had LS power too...big factor (thank goodness as what POS's those are).

What will really be funny is to see what people think when one of the most helpful and quickest DD truck owners on this site goes C6 convertible one day.....maybe.....if it were to happen.

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Originally Posted by r.barn

Hardly.

The LS1 wouldnt be around if it wasnt for our trucks.

Gen-III small block V8 was designed for trucks and SUV's and they
made a few out of aluminum for the Vets and Maros.

Probably 10,000 LM7 and LQ9 made for every one LS1 and LS2

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um.....if memory serves me right, the LS1 debuted in the 97' Vette. The redesigned trucks didnt come out until two years later, finally with the LS engines. So if Im doing my math correctly here.......

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Originally Posted by GasGuzzler

Ummmm....it was made for NASCAR an when that was not allowed it was put into production anyway in the Vette two years before trucks. Really. Yes, there are more truck engines....because there are more trucks. Don't forget the Camaro got killed the 5th year they had LS power too...big factor (thank goodness as what POS's those are).

What will really be funny is to see what people think when one of the most helpful and quickest DD truck owners on this site goes C6 convertible one day.....maybe.....if it were to happen.

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jesus dude....nice way to one up me :LOL:

And of course the LS was designed to be a mass produced engine, obviously. V8's are always more prevalent in trucks than cars, so its no wonder that the numbers are in the trucks favor. But that engine was created to go against the ohc motors that everyone else was putting out, but at a much lower cost. It was not designed for NASCAR. Im sure everyone here knows who Will Handzel is, read his book on the LS, tells the whole story of its conception

Will used to write for Hot Rod. Yes, it was built for NASCAR as it has all the good of the Yates Ford and all the good of the Northstar Cadillac with good ole' Chevrolet longevity....

Not trying to question you here, but I have yet to read anything suggesting the LS was even considered for NASCAR. All the literature Ive seen states that the Corvette engineers were considering a switch to ohc. They then did a side by side comparison with a prototype dohc motor (possibly some version of the LT5, cant remember) and an LT4, and then the rest is history. They utilized their vast experience in NASCAR racing to help design the engine, but primarily the LS was created because of new standards set by the feds and corporate to raise performance, reliability, emissions standards, and ease of manufacturing. If Im wrong on this then I'll take a big fat piece of humble pie. But if Im right, then Im the world champion of Virginia and perhaps southern Maryland.....and the Outer Banks of North Carolina :greg:

It's a Yates F**d engine with Caddy skirted block (one piece instead of two like the Caddy)....why else would GM copy and improve the Yates head? This is off topic....

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Originally Posted by GasGuzzler

It's a Yates F**d engine with Caddy skirted block (one piece instead of two like the Caddy)....why else would GM copy and improve the Yates head? This is off topic....

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Uh oh, Ive got someone on full tilt. As Ive stated before, if Im wrong, Im wrong. But I feel differently, per the literature Ive studied. Off topic, yes, but I like the debate, and I certainly respect your knowledge. Sue me....

Full tilt? :LOL:

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Originally Posted by GasGuzzler

Full tilt? :LOL:

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I thought it was funny too

Hmmm. So this explains why people were looking at me, as if I had two heads yesterday while I was detailing a Corvette.

I Dont really get challenged in the vette that much. Usually when I do, its by a slow diesel, or a faster car like a Porsche. Then again Im not counting racing my friends in mexico either. Big red beats me on motor/motor runs.

the Vette is an amazing car, which like all other amazing and expensive cars, they have a high percentage of personality-challenged owners. Not all, not even most, just a high percentage

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Originally Posted by Mang213

the Vette is an amazing car, which like all other amazing and expensive cars, they have a high percentage of personality-challenged owners. Not all, not even most, just a high percentage

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Yall should meet the full on chodes that drive exotic cars in Europe.
Sit around cafes stirring their drinks with their logo key chains. Uber-snobs

yeah I wouldnt have a problem with those Euro car snobs if they knew what kind of hardware they had in their hands. Seems like all of them buy those cars because they look fast and drive fast. At least the people on this site have an idea as to what makes their trucks tick.

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Originally Posted by r.barn

Yall should meet the full on chodes that drive exotic cars in Europe.
Sit around cafes stirring their drinks with their logo key chains. Uber-snobs

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so true:LOL:

LOL! I went over to my GTO board to let them know about this and they were already all over it. I'm happy that the LSx community keeps those douche vette guys in line. (Not all vette guys are douches)