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Old 05-17-2003, 01:58 AM
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I was playing around with my tranny and tuning the other day and i wanted to see how TM affected my trans. I've never experienced it on my truck as much as other's have, because my tranny is built and i've always had it removed before dealing with it.

So, i put most of the tables back to stock and logged some data. I was running about 35deg of timing at WOT and noticed just as the trans shifted, GET THIS!!!!!!

The pcm pulled so much timing (this was on stock z28 tables) that my timing went down to -4 deg's. That is negative four degrees. I know most ppl over doing it when describing it, but my truck literally fell on it's face, the engines rpm came down a little and the trans felt like it was slipping, but it was the engine making less hp.

So, for those of you who have modded their trucks a little, this is what you have coming. It's not tranny problems, it's TM.

So, that's what TM does,


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I guess I will have to take care of that. Thanks for the info.
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hey, no problem,

1500, the six speeds are also affected by TM, not as much obviously, but they are, the pcm can tell when you're abusing the car and will also pull timing, it will hurt performance also.



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okay.. so the 6-speed comment wasnt THAT much of an ownage, but this board needed a f-ing pic on it!
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hey, no problem,

1500, the six speeds are also affected by TM, not as much obviously, but they are, the pcm can tell when you're abusing the car and will also pull timing, it will hurt performance also.



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I was playing around with my tranny and tuning the other day and i wanted to see how TM affected my trans. I've never experienced it on my truck as much as other's have, because my tranny is built and i've always had it removed before dealing with it.

So, i put most of the tables back to stock and logged some data. I was running about 35deg of timing at WOT and noticed just as the trans shifted, GET THIS!!!!!!

The pcm pulled so much timing (this was on stock z28 tables) that my timing went down to -4 deg's. That is negative four degrees. I know most ppl over doing it when describing it, but my truck literally fell on it's face, the engines rpm came down a little and the trans felt like it was slipping, but it was the engine making less hp.

So, for those of you who have modded their trucks a little, this is what you have coming. It's not tranny problems, it's TM.

So, that's what TM does,


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What year PCM do you run?
Did you just take out the abuse mode or did you zero the tables under edit?
Also did you notice an improvement in the shift(s), I might be wrong but does't it only take it out during shifts?
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Yeah I didnt believe people either until i put my converter in and had my truck actually fall flat on its face. Its ridiculous how much timing they pull at the shift.

Also, to make it even worse, on the 03+ trucks, torque management will close the throttle blade as well to soften the shifts. how stupid is that
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Originally posted by 91ls1@Dec 4 2003, 01:45 PM

What year PCM do you run?
Did you just take out the abuse mode or did you zero the tables under edit?
Also did you notice an improvement in the shift(s), I might be wrong but does't it only take it out during shifts?
The TM tables are active throughout the entire rpm table.

TM sux,



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