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    Serious Idle problem

    I just got my truck back on the road and am having this problem. Every time i start it, the idle goes up to 2500 sits there for a few seconds then slowly comes down to about 700. I'm sure the computer hasn't fully "learned" the truck but i still don't think it should be doing this. also when i put it in gear it wants to idle high, and when i pop it in neutral coming out of drive or reverse the rpms go up to 2000 then drop past 500. are idle relearns really this bad? mods are in sig.
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    You didn't mention which mods were just done, but it sounds like you could have a vacuum leak. To verify, unplug the MAF and start the engine. If the surging stops and the idle becomes less erratic, you have a vacuum leak. Any codes being thrown?

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    How long has the tune been in? These don't have a specific idle learn procedure. +1 on possible vacuum leak and/or IAC problem if DWC.

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    Just about all the mods in my sig were done, 6.0 swap, cam, tune (2002 pcm), trans, exhaust. I did unplug the maf, started it and it did the same thing. i also double checked the tightness of my intake bolts. I'm going to swap on a stock throttle body with different sensors and spray it down with some carb cleaner and see where that gets me.
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    oh yea, it's not throwing any codes yet
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    Update: Today i fired it up in the morning and it idled at 1500 for a few seconds then came down to 750. went to get gas and when i started it at the gas station it did the usual climb to 2500 and come back down. this is after swapping on a different throttle body with different sensors. so i came home and unplugged the MAF, IAC, AIR, CC, took off the air filter, checked the fuel pressure and it still did the same thing. I also put a few miles on it after leaving the gas station and in drive the idle fluctuates from 1100 to 1400. I'm beginning to think there might be a problem in the tune.
    Big slow mud truck with a TUNE!!!!!!

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    There are some tables in the tune that are "Idle Relearn" tables that need to be altered a little to help idle learn faster , at least in EFILive there are .
    If done correctly idle will learn within a few miles or starts .
    There is a article about cams that is titled "Start once then die" , good read .
    Now what is a tune again?

    Comp Cam 54-412-11 , Int:265, 212, .522 , Exh: 271, 218, .529 , LSA 114 , Longtube , CAI (Vararam) , TransGo HD2 shift kit , tuned by me with EFILive

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    Another update, everytime i start it the idle does the usual 2500 then down to 750 and idles high in drive. well i decided to drive it any way and after sitting at a light for about 30 secs the idle went down to 800 and stayed there and it drove great up until i shut it off and started it back up. it then just repeated this process. I think it's come down to an intake leak or the computer not "remembering" the parameters.
    Big slow mud truck with a TUNE!!!!!!

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    Finally Fixed!

    Turns out that the tune i got from Nelson had the IAC valve hanging open too long. He sent me a retune, adjusted to make the IAC valve closer faster, and now it idles fine... well a little low sometimes, but it's good
    Big slow mud truck with a TUNE!!!!!!

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    Glad to hear you got it fixed.
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